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Timebandit
Before you vote, really think.

yes, the online world is vast, and a valuable scorce for information, and a good place to buy stuff for cheap. you can buy cars, buisneses and other stuff. you can find almost anythin online. Some buisniesses are based online.

No, People loose millions of dollors each day to hackers. Spyware is everywere. and Shows Humans Most Strange desires. Componys go bankrupt, Hackers rule some parts. there are racist slurs and websites. Kids everyday are raped ffrom online stalkers.
Mynck
It serves its purpose: easy communication between people and sources of information around the world.
S.W.A.T
It is good.Very good time-wasting.
lappy512
>People loose millions of dollors each day to hackers.
Hackers are annoying, but it doesn't mean that it makes the internet bad. You could say the world is bad since people lose millions of dollars per day because of bandits and gangs, the Mafia, and wars.

>Spyware is everywere. and Shows Humans Most Strange desires.
If you are smart, you won't get spyware. I have never gotten any spyware besides tracking cookies (which I don't care about) for the past year.

>Componys go bankrupt, Hackers rule some parts.
Companys go bankrupt in the real world; what do you mean hackers rule some parts? They can create their own websites, yes, but you don't have to go there.

>there are racist slurs and websites.
And there are racist people everywhere

>Kids everyday are raped ffrom online stalkers.
And from offline people.

I vote that the Internet is a good thing.
Alecto
teh internet iz stpd cuz bush touches it

teh wrld iz stpd cuz bush touches it

Anything that happens in the 'net world happens in the real world. Only difference is that the 'net world's things will only affect you if you let them.
S.W.A.T
QUOTE(Genesis @ Sep 3 2006, 02:16 PM)
teh internet iz stpd cuz bush touches it

teh wrld iz stpd cuz bush touches it

Anything that happens in the 'net world happens in the real world.  Only difference is that the 'net world's things will only affect you if you let them.
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Yes,Bush is stupid,Bin Laden is stupid,Hitler is stupid,Saddam is stupid,Stalin is stupid,even David Hasslehoff is smarter.
Timebandit
QUOTE(lappy512 @ Sep 3 2006, 01:51 PM)
>People loose millions of dollors each day to hackers.
Hackers are annoying, but it doesn't mean that it makes the internet bad. You could say the world is bad since people lose millions of dollars per day because of bandits and gangs, the Mafia, and wars. 

>Spyware is everywere. and Shows Humans Most Strange desires.
If you are smart, you won't get spyware. I have never gotten any spyware besides tracking cookies (which I don't care about) for the past year.

>Componys go bankrupt, Hackers rule some parts.
Companys go bankrupt in the real world; what do you mean hackers rule some parts? They can create their own websites, yes, but you don't have to go there.

>there are racist slurs and websites.
And there are racist people everywhere

>Kids everyday are raped ffrom online stalkers.
And from offline people.

I vote that the Internet is a good thing.
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yes true, but im saying the world would have about 1/7 less of those same problems
Alecto
QUOTE(Timebandit @ Sep 3 2006, 03:14 PM)
yes true, but im saying the world would have about 1/7 less of those same problems
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Or, they would be commited somewhere that actually matters, the real life.

Only internet businesses go down if they get hacked. Elsewise, they're fine.
guitar_freak22
QUOTE(Timebandit @ Sep 3 2006, 04:09 PM)
Before you vote, really think.

yes, the online world is vast, and a valuable scorce for information, and a good place to buy stuff for cheap. you can buy cars, buisneses and other stuff. you can find almost anythin online. Some buisniesses are based online.

No, People loose millions of dollors each day to hackers. Spyware is everywere. and Shows Humans Most Strange desires. Componys go bankrupt, Hackers rule some parts. there are racist slurs and websites. Kids everyday are raped ffrom online stalkers.
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I thought. And my immediate thought after thinking was that the internet was a good thing. Yes, we could all live without it, but it makes communication across great distances so much easier. Families can be reunited by the internet. Old friends who had forgotten eachother could meet and start a whole new friendship, renewed. The only reason people loose millions of dollars is because they are stupid enough to put their bank accounts online. There is only one thing in life that is secure. That means the rest is unsecure. If people were smart, they could avoid the racist slurs. If people were smart, they could avoid the rapists. If people were smart, they could avoid the spy-ware and the adware.

So what it really boils down to is this:

Are you going to be stupid with the internet, or are you going to use it wisely, become e-smart, know what to do when bad situations arise?

QUOTE(Timebandit @ Sep 3 2006, 06:14 PM)
yes true, but im saying the world would have about 1/7 less of those same problems
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No, it is not the internet that causes this. It is the idiots who give out personal information on the internet. People should be forced to read safety guidlines before even being able to touch a computer with access to the internet.

What this whole situation is is another repeat of the gun control thing. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. How many gun control laws did the students at Columbine break? What would be a few more? THEY WOULD HAVE DONE IT ANYWAY. The same can be said about the internet. The internet does not rape people, people rape people. The internet does not produce racial slurs, people produce racial slurs. The internet does not steal millions of dollars, people steal millions of dollars. Guns and the internet are just tools that could have easily been protected against. If we as a country made it a law to have some sort of firearm in every home, unless religion said otherwise(quakers), the burglary rate would drop tremendously. What burglar would want to enter a home in which the owners were armed? The same can be done to the internet. If we all had programs that would destroy anything that tried to access our bank accounts, the theives would think twice about trying to steal from those accounts. Maybe being able to use the internet should be a privelege. One has to have approval of the state in order to use the internet.

I am done ranting now. yawn.gif
serebii
QUOTE(Timebandit @ Sep 3 2006, 04:14 PM)
yes true, but im saying the world would have about 1/7 less of those same problems
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No, not really. The world is far more vast than the Internet.
Timebandit
QUOTE(serebii @ Sep 3 2006, 06:00 PM)
No, not really. The world is far more vast than the Internet.
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youd be VERY suprized
Mynck
The internet doesn't have widespread poverty or large-scale bureaucracy.
Herloss
QUOTE(Timebandit @ Sep 3 2006, 05:09 PM)
No, People loose millions of dollors each day to hackers.
Most real hackers wouldnt bother, but anyway, people loose millions of dollars without the help of the internet.
QUOTE
Spyware is everywere.
Billboards are everywhere.
QUOTE
and Shows Humans Most Strange desires.
I dont see how this is a negative, but you can get the same stuff offline.
QUOTE
Componys go bankrupt,
Unless it's a case of wire-fraud, companies dont usually go bankrupt because of the internet.
QUOTE
Hackers rule some parts.
And gangs rule the real world.
QUOTE
there are racist slurs and websites.
KKK anyone?
QUOTE
Kids everyday are raped ffrom online stalkers.
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Those kids are retarded, and probobly would have gotten themselves raped even if there was no internet.

The internet is nothing more than an improvement in communications technologies. The internet really didn't create any new crimes, or indecency, only created a new vehicle for it.

I wouldnt catagorize the internet as positive or negative, but I would say that it's an improvement, which one would consider "good."
Timebandit
Oh my god! ok, yes hackers and gangs are everywere. Stalkers are offline and online! yes. Doesnt matter, its still bad!
Mynck
Mmm, yes. The internet is just a tool. It can be used for good or for bad but the general assumption is that it'll be used for good most of the time, just like with any other tool.
Herloss
QUOTE(Mynck @ Sep 3 2006, 11:24 PM)
but the general assumption is that it'll be used for good most of the time, just like with any other tool.
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And most of the time it is. You just hear negative stories more often than positive stories because, well, good things dont make very good news.
Alecto
Same applies with Myspace. They talk about the hundreds that stuff happens to, but what about the hundreds of thousands that nothing happen to?
Herloss
QUOTE(Genesis @ Sep 3 2006, 11:44 PM)
Same applies with Myspace.  They talk about the hundreds that stuff happens to, but what about the hundreds of thousands that nothing happen to?
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Same applies to all news. You hear about the [bleeped!] tripping on acid who tried to fly off his roof, but you dont hear about the kid tripping on acid who realized that we are all one and there is no such thing as death. You hear about the dick who pissed off a bear and got mauled, but not about the guy who sat quietly and observed a bear from afar. You hear about people dieing of cancer, AIDS, the new "killer" flu etc. Not about those who survived it completly unharmed. You hear about the pitbull that chewed up a three year old, not the one that chewed up a burgler.

I watch the news every so often, and then look out my window and say to myself, "where is all this crap happening?" You'd think that, from the news, every time you stepped out your door you'd be brutally raped by some rabid AIDS infested pitbull.
Timebandit
QUOTE(Genesis @ Sep 3 2006, 07:44 PM)
Same applies with Myspace.  They talk about the hundreds that stuff happens to, but what about the hundreds of thousands that nothing happen to?
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yeah, myspace is like were the stalkers roam wild.
chuck
anybody but me see the irony that timebandit's avatar is a firefox browser logo, and he says that the internet is bad?



IRONY
Timebandit
well, firefox counts as the internet to. the same things happen with IE and firefox.
Alecto
QUOTE(Timebandit @ Sep 4 2006, 07:15 AM)
yeah, myspace is like were the stalkers roam wild.
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No, the planet Earth is where all the human stalkers roam wild.
Timebandit
I didnt say were ALL stalkers roam wild
guitar_freak22
QUOTE(Timebandit @ Sep 3 2006, 10:18 PM)
Oh my god! ok, yes hackers and gangs are everywere. Stalkers are offline and online! yes. Doesnt matter, its still bad!
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How is it bad? You have failed to mention that. I bet you are one of those people who approve of more gun control laws. Also, no one quoted my well-thought-out reply to this topic....I was almost disappointed...especially since HerLoss posted here, it would usually be grounds for him to find something wrong with it. tongue.gif
Timebandit
errrr. im not saying theinternet is bad. im saying that hackers and stalkers are bad!
Alecto
And I'm saying thugs and robbers are bad. They're everywhere, no matter in what form or shape.
Timebandit
im also saying if you took the internet away, it would reduce thaat, and cause an economical disaster
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