The psp and the ds are the only new handheld on the market (yes i not going to put the GBA in here) Ton help you decide i put a list of pro and cons for each

DS/DS LITE
Good
Touch screen
Nice fun games
Bright screen
Mic
Online play
Backward compatible
Stylus holder

Bad
Some games need three hands
No moive and or music cabitltiels
Bulky design
Touch screen easyily scratched
Bad volume range
Holding sometimes a hassle
Some games are bad

PSP
Good
Music and vidieo cablities
Expanble memeory
Large selections of moive
Hold switch
Sleek and sexy
Online play
Wirless internet
Big screen

Bad
FPS not very good
Very fragile
Tiny nub
Can be bricked
Uses disks that can be scrathced
Expensive upgrades
Some bad games

sorry about the poll

Ahem, no movie and music capabilities built-in. You could get a 2 or 4 GB Max Media HDD or a standard flash cart (maybe one that uses everyday flash memory cards) and add in Moonshell to play movies and music.

Some more pros to the DS/lite list is that:
Conventional homebrew apps are available for it
You can run... Linux with a basic xwindow manager on it?
A bit more than half the price of a PSP

Some more cons to the DS/lite list is that:
No built-in web browser (though Opera is comming for sale eventually)
Can be bricked (Yes, the DS can be bricked as well)
Game cards are easily broken
Wi-Fi games are restrictive

Some more pros to the PSP list is that:
More comfortable design
Firmware upgrades
UMD Disks hold more content
Better hardware stats

Some more cons to the PSP list is that:
Longer, harder to fit in your pocket
Built-in browser is bulky to control, and takes forever to type in a long sentence (Which is the reasons my friends tak lik tis on their MySpaces)
UMD Movies are overly expensive and the DVD compliment would cost less and has bonus features

the discs cant be scratched unless you really tried! and the psp graphics are wayyyy better. but nintendo ds is a bit sturdyer

i've never held a psp, so i guess i wouldn't be able to contribute. i will say i like the ds's design, and that it is selling better than the psp for a reason. btw i think we have a really old topic on this somewhere. that's where myscrnnm started his ranting...

The poll Doesn't work...

I would choose the PSP...

I see an Uprising in the PSP fans they will RISE up AND DEFEND THEIR PSP'S FROM PSP HATERS like you. MUHWAAAAHAHA

the psp is the best man
thats why i own it way better graphics to

One more reason the PSP rules is that there are better games.

The touch screen is a gimmick, it doesn't actually give you a tactical advantage.
The games are not fun, they are just plain stupid.
The screens in the original DS were actually very dim and hard to see even indoors.
The PSP has a microphone too (sold separately, but of higher quality).
The PSP also has online play, not to mention it's better than the DS's, and was made available before, even though the PSP was released after the DS.
You can't really use backwards-compatibility as an argument for the DS being better, since there is no predecessor for the PSP.
The stylus holder is only useful if you have a stylus. But since the stylus is stupid for a gaming platform, that renders the holder useless.

Yes, and the human body only comes with two hands by default.
Yes, it needs an expensive third-party add-on to do multimedia stuff. Meanwhile, the PSP does this stuff natively, plus image viewing.
Yes, it's so bulky it's not even funny.
Yes, it's easily scratched.
Yes, the speakers are weak, even for such a small unit.
Yes, it's hassle cuz it's not ergonomic.
Actually, almost all the games are bad. All the first-party ones are.

Yes, the PSP has lots of multimedia stuff, plus image-viewing.
Yes, up to more than 2GB of memory from the Memory Stick Duo.
Yes, the movies are endless, not to mention you can make your own with the Sony PSP Media Manager.
Yes, no more pressing stuff by accident.
Yes, it's the sexiest handheld gaming platform ever made, perhaps even the sexiest of any handheld device.
Yes, the online play is on par with, or better than home console games.
Yes, the Internet browser is excellent in terms of functionality and reliability as well.
Yes, the largest screen ever put on a handheld gaming unit. Plus, the total area is more than that of the DS's screens combined.

The FPS's are actually quite good if you know how to use it.
Not that fragile, it's been thrown from second-story buildings and survived.
The analog nub has to be that size to fit at where it is.
The discs are not easily scratched. The covering, maybe, but it's so thick that you don't have to worry about the actual disc being scratched.
Upgrades are getting rapidly cheaper. Not to mention the firmware is free, and you've already got so much included there's not much to upgrade.
Very few bad games, in fact, more than 90% of the games are good.

No, homebrew is way more prevalent for the PSP. In a contest on Engadget, there was a contest for homebrew apps for the PSP and DS, and no one even submitted any entries for the DS.
So? With the PSP, you can run Linux, Windows XP, and Mac OS on it.
It's cheaper for a reason, because it sucks.

Hah, you have to buy it. The web browser for the PSP is free from the firmware update. Plus, it's based on Netscape, which is superior to Opera.
Yes, they are flimsy.
Yes, very restrictive. The PSP's Infrastructure games can do so much more. They are on par with, or better than home console online games.

Yeah, it's only larger in one of three dimensions, and that's so it can accomodate the widescreen display. And it's also easier to fit in the pocket due to its slimmer size.
The web browser in the PSP is a lot easier to control than you think, I use it all the time.
No, the UMD movies are not that expensive.

Exactly. Plus, there's the polycarbonate layer over the disc itself to prevent scratches even further. Also, the DS isn't sturdier at all, it's made in CHina from cheap plastic. The original PSP's were manufactured in Japan from high-grade plastic that doesn't feel cheap at all.

Wrong again, idiot. The DS sells better than the PSP not because it's better, but because it's cheaper. It's like saying that the Dodge Neon is better than a Mercedes-Benz S65 AMG just cuz it sells better, it sells better for the exact same reason.

Very true,it's like saying a Honda Civic is better than a Ferrari Enzo because it sells more.

Also,the DS is crappy compared to the PSP.

Things that the PSP can do that the DS can't:
1.Be cool
2.Play Movies
3.Play Music
4.Have the best games
5.More shock-proof
6.better buttons
7.better plastic
8.Have a good light
9.Better Online Playing
10...Well,you get the idea.


Things that the DS can do that the PSP can't:

1.Be crappy
2.Be worse than a Game Boy Color.

lol, so true. btw, but it could be argued that the Civic is more reliable than the Ferrari, cuz Ferraris actually hav a fine reputation for having crap reliability. So perhaps you should compare the Civic to a BMW 750il.

Maybe a civic and a Dodge Viper GT.

Sure. Although I hate American cars cuz the design is terrible, and they aren't very reliable.

I like Italian and German cars better.

what's wrong with the poll there's only one choice?

if you hold it it has a nice feel. the weight isnt bad and i love the games. the ds is also good because the games are simple and fun. it is also like a turtle. it protects itself. i still like the psp but the ds isnt bad

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the GM compony is great. the ford gt is a great looking car.

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woooooooooo 300th post

Yeah. German is pretty much the best. Although the United Kingdom has some pretty good cars.

where the [] did all these new guys come from? put up an arguement guys. at least myscrnnm can act smart.

Not to sound anti-American, but American made cars suck. They also suck gas. The fuel efficiency is complete and total crap. And then they wonder why they lose out to companies like Honda with mpg's of over 30. And their hybrids. Oh man, they are sweet. But ford doesn't seem to get it. I think it is because they have too many illegals working for them or their scientists are all idiots or both. I go with both.



So, you don't like it when myscrnnm calls you dumb, but you are the one who usually starts the argument in the first place. That's hilarious. I can see why he calls you that. Not that I am saying you are dumb, mind you. You are pretty game-smart. Game-smart is an excellent type of smart to be. But I had to make that point.

Yeah, I am proud to be a citizen of the United States, but our cars just totally suck. btw, we should be getting back on topic.

YES! Teh PSP rules

Not to mention all the new accessories that are being released by 4th quarter.

PSP has crapy fps, unless your like me and know how to make it run faster (legally).

that's what i've heard too. it's probably because few people seem to find the analog stick comfortable. then again, i think first person shooters just weren't meant for handhelds.

i have SOCOM fireteam bravo for PSP. at first its pretty hard. but when you get used to its a snap. the online play is great and free. i talk to my friend useing headsets.

a head set for a portable? i've never heard of such a thing. i find it odd, although i'm sure it works. then again, the ds has a mic, meaning you don't need a head set.

Lol, just use a basic headphone system should do. Why are you not on msn /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/?

i like headsets because its a little more"privete". what if your parents were right there when your friend says somthing stupid! anyways. its awsome.

I put down the things that i thought were true for both. I know that i was going to have a lot complailnts the DS touch screen is pretty good

yeah, but dosent the screen get scratched and stuff? and i also like how the ds comes in different colors.

It's true that the touch screen can be scrathed but the new stylus stop that and the PSP does have skins you can buy.

So does the DS

Yeah, the old stylus scratched that badboy like nothing, so did the thumb strap, which is why the Aussie's DSes don't come with one.

See nintendo has fixed the touch screen for the lite and stylus with the lite is really good

The stylus is longer and doesn't causes major hand cramps like before >_> It's still too small IMO. I'd rather buy a pen-sized stylus for a dollar at some electronics store than use the one with the DS/L.

i dont like how the ds is top weighted when you open it.

The DS hinges crack!

Heh, yeah, you kinda hafta not force it open too roughly, but it opens smooth enough

duct tape.

Only if you break or abuse it

Ugly. Well, you could put it on a standard DS

no, what if your playing and drop it funny.

No,when you step on it in the dark.

no, what if you drop it on a m ne and it blows up..... like thisDS DOOMSDAY

Operator,plz gimme a translation.

theres your translation

Why would you wondering around your room with otu the light on.
[QUOTE]You need to be more careful

[quote=Big boned,Jul 22 2006, 06:32 PM]
Why would you wondering around your room with otu the light on.
[QUOTE]You need to be more careful

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#1, what if your dad came home from work one night and your little brother or somthing left it on the floor. CRACK
#2 knowones perfect

The gameplay has nothing to do with the speed, cuz it's made so that there's minimal latency. Not to mention any game, no matter if it's an FPS or anything else, will run at least ten times better than an equivalent on the DS.

Wrong, that's exactly the mindset that makes you unsuitable to judge such things. You think that FPSs weren't meant for handhelds cuz Nintendo just stuck with 2D crap while SCEI started thinking of how to get real console games onto a portable device. And to your disgust, SCEI made it work, and now you're just jealous cuz it took Nintendo a lot longer to think up that idea.

Yeah, the learning curve is excellent. When I got SOCOM, I was getting along fine after less than five minutes in the campaign.

lol, you've never heard ofsuch a thing because you've chosen to be ignorant. The headset was released months ago. It's not odd, it gives people not only privacy, but high quality audio, it's the obvious choice for a portable entertainment device. Also, the DS's microphone is nothing compared to the PSP headset's microphone. First of all, the DS's microphone has terrible reception, coupled with the fact that during usual gameplay, it'll be at least 20 centimetres or so away from your mouth.

Yes, the screen is a lot more easily scratched, even with the supplied stylus, because it doesn't use the same technology as Tablet PCs, which allow you to navigate without having to drag the stylus across the screen.

lol, no quality control. With the PSP, you can afford to be rough with it cuz you'll know that it's solidly built (not that anyone in their right mind would try to abuse one in the first place though).

In short English:

PSP Rules the DS.

ill agree with that. but why does everyone think the DS is THAT bad! i mean i love the PSP more, but its not to bad. knowone try to change my mind.