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Korps Commander
Members have been asking about a few strange occurences on KL recently. The admins/moderators have begun an investigation in this. Here is the timeline of what happened, according to Mynck:

1. Mynck, myscrnnm, and thisoldmage were at a party with me.
2. myscrnnm and/or thisoldmage found out Mynck's password, and hijacked his account
3. They used it to lower some warns, delete HerLoss' account, and possibly other things in the Admin CP.
4. I banned and demoted Mynck in order to stop them from using his account again.
5. The moderators and admins are now discussing what to do about this situation. thisoldmage and myscrnnm will possibly be permanently banned.

Thank you, and if you have noticed any other strange thing/things here, please let us know.

- Korps Commander, KL Staff
guitar_freak22
QUOTE(Korps Commander @ Jul 3 2006, 04:30 PM)
Members have been asking about a few strange occurences on KL recently. The admins/moderators have begun an investigation in this. Here is the timeline of what happened, according to Mynck:

1. Mynck, myscrnnm, and thisoldmage were at a party with me.
2. myscrnnm and/or thisoldmage found out Mynck's password, and hijacked his account
3. They used it to lower some warns, delete HerLoss' account, and possibly other things in the Admin CP.
4. I banned and demoted Mynck in order to stop them from using his account again.
5. The moderators and admins are now discussing what to do about this situation. thisoldmage and myscrnnm will possibly be permanently banned.

Thank you, and if you have noticed any other strange thing/things here, please let us know.

- Korps Commander, KL Staff
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I say it was you. You had it out for myscrnnm and thisoldmage because they dissed you publicly for some of your posts. You used mynck's account to frame him because he disagreed with some of your ideas and to reduce competition for largest amount of posts.

If anyone agrees with me, please reply.
Herloss
I was unaware that thisoldmage had it in for me as well... *shrug*
lappy512
QUOTE(guitar_freak22 @ Jul 3 2006, 01:56 PM)
I say it was you.  You had it out for myscrnnm and thisoldmage because they dissed you publicly for some of your posts.  You used mynck's account to frame him because he disagreed with some of your ideas and to reduce competition for largest amount of posts.

If anyone agrees with me, please reply.
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As far as I can tell, it's mostly correct except that thisoldmage got mynck's password using the password remember feature for fun, but gave myscrnnm the idea.

I've restored HerLoss's account. Everything should be back to normal, except that Mynck will no longer have admin previleges, as this is not the first time and that the admin console is not used often.
guitar_freak22
QUOTE(lappy512 @ Jul 3 2006, 06:16 PM)
I've restored HerLoss's account. Everything should be back to normal, except that Mynck will no longer have admin previleges, as this is not the first time and that the admin console is not used often.
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Was thisoldmage's actions mynck's fault?
Korps Commander
It was indirectly his fault, I think.

Mynck has allowed myscrnnm (and in this case, thisoldmage) to access his account and traipse through the Admin CP and cause damage about four times now. So, its clear that lappy can't trust him to hold access to the Admin CP any longer.

Herloss
Either Mynck is responsible, or myscrnnm has the ability to crack anyone's password, and is just making Mynck look bad... or maybe I'm just high...
djbob
Nah, Mynck isn't responsible. He wouldn't do anything like this. And as mentioned, nobody's password was cracked. Mynck just had the password remembered on his computer (you know, all the browser's have that feature when you don't need to type the password...), and they logged in that way.

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4. I banned and demoted Mynck in order to stop them from using his account again.
Hmmm, how can a mod demote people? And ban admins? IPB needs to be fixed tongue.gif
Alecto
Yippee, more chaos. I love not being around.
issac55
No..... your right Dj.as well as Guitar Freak22.....this is.... mynck's,thisoldmage's,nor myscrnnms fault.....thisis KCs plan.

i have some forums too,an ibp/invision forum.a mod cant demote admins right?

and if he permantly banned him,why do i see this on the screen?

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Last  Active                  Today, 06:00 PM

on his profile?


and for KC,you decline to comment.Why??
lappy512
QUOTE(djbob @ Jul 3 2006, 04:42 PM)
Nah, Mynck isn't responsible. He wouldn't do anything like this. And as mentioned, nobody's password was cracked. Mynck just had the password remembered on his computer (you know, all the browser's have that feature when you don't need to type the password...), and they logged in that way.

Hmmm, how can a mod demote people? And ban admins? IPB needs to be fixed tongue.gif
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KC, it's not that Mynck isn't responsible, it's just that he hasn't needed the Admin powers for a while, and that myscrnnm at his house is a bit of a security risk. It's that the outside pressures are too big, not that that he isn't capable.

djbob, according to the admin logs, mynck was demoted by himself. Temp banning regular members with the warn console is very easy, after that.
issac55
holy [bleeped!]!MYnck was demoted by himself,which i think "himself"is the hacker,KC,he said he banned him!hes a mod he cant do that?!ANy more needed evidence?
Spaceman3750
Everyone needs to calm down and stop jumping to conclusions. Please, let the staff investigate this further before making any allegations of any KC conspiracy.
lappy512
QUOTE(issac55 @ Jul 3 2006, 07:01 PM)
holy [bleeped!]!MYnck was demoted by himself,which i think "himself"is the hacker,KC,he said he banned him!hes a mod he cant do that?!ANy more needed evidence?
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I personally called Mynck, he said he did that to prevent his account from getting further abuse. Mynck is a good friend.
chuck
it seems that they are both equally responsible for the problem and should be equally punished.
Herloss
QUOTE(chuck @ Jul 4 2006, 12:07 AM)
it seems that they are both equally responsible for the problem and should be equally punished.
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Yeah, but this isnt myscrnnm's first offense, so depending on thisoldmage's record (about which I am ignorant), they may or may not be deserving of equal punishment.
chuck
i am pretty sure thisoldmage has done nothing previously, but i am not completely sure.

also, was myscrnnm punished for his previous hijacking?
Herloss
QUOTE(chuck @ Jul 4 2006, 12:13 AM)
i am pretty sure thisoldmage has done nothing previously, but i am not completely sure.

also, was myscrnnm punished for his previous hijacking?
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I'm not sure... he may have been temp banned for a week or so.
chuck
QUOTE(Herloss @ Jul 3 2006, 09:17 PM)
I'm not sure... he may have been temp banned for a week or so.
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cuz if he had then he should be permabanned because he did not learn from the punishment. as for thisoldmage, I know him in real life and I find it hard to believe he would do this, but he obviously did, but sscince it is his first offence he should only be temp banned.
Herloss
QUOTE(chuck @ Jul 4 2006, 12:20 AM)
cuz if he had then he should be permabanned because he did not learn from the punishment.  as for thisoldmage, I know him in real life and I find it hard to believe he would do this, but he obviously did, but sscince it is his first offence he should only be temp banned.
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my sentiments exactly
matthew chr1
They are mongulated blink.gif and should be banned
myscrnnm
QUOTE(Korps Commander @ Jul 3 2006, 05:16 PM)
It was indirectly his fault, I think.

Mynck has allowed myscrnnm (and in this case, thisoldmage) to access his account and traipse through the Admin CP and cause damage about four times now. So, its clear that lappy can't trust him to hold access to the Admin CP any longer.
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You idiot, you are always twisting up the stories to make yourself look good and get other people in trouble. You agreed yourself that HerLoss doesn't deserve to be here, and I think anyone with a functional brain should know that. Just shut up.
QUOTE(Herloss @ Jul 3 2006, 05:23 PM)
Either Mynck is responsible, or myscrnnm has the ability to crack anyone's password, and is just making Mynck look bad... or maybe I'm just high...
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Thisoldmage was the one who used the logged-on account to create a new password and prevent Mynck from using his own account. Later deleting your account.
Herloss
QUOTE(myscrnnm @ Jul 4 2006, 02:10 AM)
You agreed yourself that HerLoss doesn't deserve to be here, and I think anyone with a functional brain should know that. Just shut up.

If it were that obvious that I dont deserve to maintain an identity on these forums, then it would have been dealt with on the administrative level.
alexmaccoll
Jeeez guys, what is wrong with you
Your acting like a bunch of kids
Just kiss and make up and all will be fine biggrin.gif
myscrnnm
QUOTE(alexmaccoll @ Jul 4 2006, 02:41 AM)
Jeeez guys, what is wrong with you
Your acting like a bunch of kids
Just kiss and make up and all will be fine biggrin.gif
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That's what I tried to do on Saturday, but these idiots insist on fighting.
Mynck
QUOTE(myscrnnm @ Jul 4 2006, 12:53 PM)
That's what I tried to do on Saturday, but these idiots insist on fighting.
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You tried to kiss us? blink.gif
Herloss
QUOTE(Mynck @ Jul 4 2006, 05:06 PM)
You tried to kiss us?  blink.gif
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Yeah, if there had been any kissing going on I would've opened up a can of whoop-arse.
djbob
QUOTE(issac55 @ Jul 3 2006, 07:01 PM)
holy [bleeped!]!MYnck was demoted by himself,which i think "himself"is the hacker,KC,he said he banned him!hes a mod he cant do that?!ANy more needed evidence?
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Do you understand what you are saying?
issac55
not exactley.but i do understand,that kc claimes he demoted and banned mynck.Mynck was demoted by hiself,and mynck has not been banned,till 2022.i accuse KC of false claim.
myscrnnm
QUOTE(issac55 @ Jul 4 2006, 06:18 PM)
not exactley.but i do understand,that kc claimes he demoted and banned mynck.Mynck was demoted by hiself,and mynck has not been banned,till 2022.i accuse KC of false claim.
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Exactly. The thing is, we should just demote the Korps Commander and get this over with. Cuz every time something like this happens, the Korps Commander just concocts a bunch of lies to save his own skin.
Mynck
Actually he did ban me until 2022. I just got unbanned is all.
myscrnnm
QUOTE(Mynck @ Jul 4 2006, 07:43 PM)
Actually he did ban me until 2022. I just got unbanned is all.
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Okay, one thing that was true. But there are still lots of lies.
Bobalini
im reviewing wethere or not i should of said that this post will brb
Bobalini
as i can see you are reading this herloss i believe that you were not the main purpose of this whole event i believe that u were liek a pawn used to make myscrnm look evil and thisoldmage was in it also to make it not seem as myscrnm was being targeted correct me if i am thinking too deeply but i think i got it streight
Herloss
QUOTE(Bobalini @ Jul 4 2006, 11:44 PM)
i do not see any reason myscrnm or thisoldmage would have any reason to do this kind of thing to herloss. what would be in it for them?
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myscrnnm is an immature amature itellectual. He has failed to move me with his crappy retorts and paragraphs of bull****. This pisses him off to no end. You could say he has an ego problem. At one point in the past, he hijacked an upper-up's account (I believe it was Mynck's), and gave me a ten day ban. The moron screwed up considerably when he went off in the auto-e-mail I got when banned, saying that I had been banned permanently. It was quite the interesting experience. Someone in the admin-seat unbanned me a day or two later, fingers were pointed, and it was determined that myscrnnm had in fact commited said act... blah blah blah...

That was in the days of the old-KL. This time he just flat out deleted my account. All that can be determined from his actions is that he hates being defied, cannot stand being up-staged, and is extremely immature about it. (It probobly has something to do with his parents never saying "no" to him... spoiled brat syndrome...). He realizes that he cannot use me as his pawn, and so instead of just getting better at arguing, he feels he has to kick it up a notch and just try to eliminate me. Very petty... Very cowardly...
Bobalini
QUOTE(Herloss @ Jul 4 2006, 11:03 PM)
myscrnnm is an immature amature itellectual. He has failed to move me with his crappy retorts and paragraphs of bull****. This pisses him off to no end. You could say he has an ego problem. At one point in the past, he hijacked an upper-up's account (I believe it was Mynck's), and gave me a ten day ban. The moron screwed up considerably when he went off in the auto-e-mail I got when banned, saying that I had been banned permanently. It was quite the interesting experience. Someone in the admin-seat unbanned me a day or two later, fingers were pointed, and it was determined that myscrnnm had in fact commited said act... blah blah blah...

That was in the days of the old-KL. This time he just flat out deleted my account. All that can be determined from his actions is that he hates being defied, cannot stand being up-staged, and is extremely immature about it. (It probobly has something to do with his parents never saying "no" to him... spoiled brat syndrome...). He realizes that he cannot use me as his pawn, and so instead of just getting better at arguing, he feels he has to kick it up a notch and just try to eliminate me. Very petty... Very cowardly...
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how exactly was it determined that he did it any ways?

then again, i suppose.............

but what about thisoldmage? that is where the story gets twisted and odd. because he is not in any way like myscrnm and i dont believe he has anything against you.

Triple-post, warned
serebii
I agree. Untill now, I had no hard feelings toward KC. But now, I shall review the evidence:

1. It has been shown that KC has a extreme dislike towards myscrnnm. (No evidence towards thisoldmage). KC is now proposing to ban them.
2. KC himself admits that he was at the party where, soposedly, mynck's account was hijacked.
3. Look at previous post by other users to find more evidence.

To me, KC, it seems the evidence you presented is going against you.
Bobalini
my point exactly.
Bobalini
finnaly someone agrees, i am going to hopefully tonight write a report on the matter and will be finished by 1 pm
issac55
QUOTE(myscrnnm @ Jul 4 2006, 10:02 PM)
Exactly. The thing is, we should just demote the Korps Commander and get this over with. Cuz every time something like this happens, the Korps Commander just concocts a bunch of lies to save his own skin.
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Well,we have a supporter. Anyone Else?
guitar_freak22
I agree. And here is some more to think about:

QUOTE(Herloss @ Jul 4 2006, 11:03 PM)
myscrnnm is an immature amature itellectual. He has failed to move me with his crappy retorts and paragraphs of bull****. This pisses him off to no end. You could say he has an ego problem. At one point in the past, he hijacked an upper-up's account (I believe it was Mynck's), and gave me a ten day ban. The moron screwed up...
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Now, tell me who the immature one is? Immaturity seems to pour out of this reply KC. And if you are going to try and insult someone with a big word, make sure you spell it right.

QUOTE(Herloss @ Jul 4 2006, 11:03 PM)
That was in the days of the old-KL. This time he just flat out deleted my account. All that can be determined from his actions is that he hates being defied, cannot stand being up-staged, and is extremely immature about it. (It probobly has something to do with his parents never saying "no" to him... spoiled brat syndrome...). He realizes that he cannot use me as his pawn, and so instead of just getting better at arguing, he feels he has to kick it up a notch and just try to eliminate me. Very petty... Very cowardly...
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The only thing I am seeing here is your hatred towards myscrnnm and also the supposed "immaturity" that you blame myscrnnm for.
Timebandit
yeah, why would anyone think of doing such a thing. tell them to wikipedia the defintion for "hacking"
lappy512
It wasn't really a hacking.
Timebandit
oh, i just read this
well, im not the exagerant type usually. But still, why would anyone ever think of it. if you got banned even for 10 days that would still suck! id fell... shutup.gif

woo! i just edited this because i relized i just became an ultra member! wooooo! and i went from newbie to ultra member in like a month and 10 days!
serebii
offtopic.gif

Anyway, I am a supporter of Demote KC.
Bobalini
whoooo more supporters, sorry i didint get to post my in depth report of this but someone hacked my computer and disabled my internet connection. long story short i had to reboot my internet connection like 30 times and it was quite anoying, whoever did this did a quick and amature job, and it seemed like it was just to stall me, maby my story is correct and im getting too close, whoever did this to me watch out cause ur gonna have some worms some time in the very near future. rolleyes.gif oh btw i am going to post the report on this matter today.
Bobalini
QUOTE(serebii @ Jul 5 2006, 11:54 AM)
offtopic.gif

Anyway, I am a supporter of Demote KC.
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thats not off topic, that is quite right on topic.
Bobalini
here is my so called "organised" (lol i wish) statement.

Ah where to begin well I believe that all the evidence points to kc his story was full of holes and has shown an extreme dislike of myscrnm, (of course we all somewhat dislike him but I mean EXTREEM dislike) like think of it like this, you don’t like broccoli but it is kind of always there and its a necessary evil. But say you have a fear of heights; you want to avoid that situation and get rid of what ever is making this fear be invoked. It is the same situation with most kl people. The kl people are the ones who dislike broccoli and kc is the one who wants to get rid of this thing that is making him mad, heights. So you see it’s only logical to remove the problem, witch is myscrnm and keep it removed, but it would be idiotic to just do it your self directly, you would surely get caught. So why not take the problem and use it against someone else by harming them, thereby showing that this “problem” should be taken care of and hopefully in kc’s eyes ridding kl of the problem. To thicken the plot and make it harder to trace back to the source he would add another person , or a helper to the problem to make it look as if there is not doubt that myscrnm did this. Herloss was even quoted as saying: “I find that hard to believe considering there is no tension between thisoldmage and I.” I find it hard to believe that thisoldmage had anything to do with this plot this further strengthening my argument. If others decide to post and help my cause then I will further continue this argument by request, and turn it into an organized format with everyones statements, thoughts, and ideas in it , and send it to lappy, thank you for reading -bobalini

lol broccoli sleep.gif
Herloss
QUOTE(lappy512 @ Jul 5 2006, 11:48 AM)
It wasn't really a hacking.
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Technically speaking, it's cracking.
Bobalini
QUOTE(Herloss @ Jul 5 2006, 01:43 PM)
Technically speaking, it's cracking.
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nope i got the real story from thisoldmage

--added--

QUOTE(thisoldmage @ Jul 5 2006, 02:01 PM)
Mynck needs to be more careful...
He was at KC's house and didn't press "Not Now" when the save password thing appeared.
I didn't notice...
but KC did.
And he took over.
He RAN AWAY.
HE IS CURRENTLY NOT IN THE UNITED STATES.
HE LEFT YESTERDAY.

Don't believe the crackpots.
Think about it.
I like nintendo.
Myscrnnm likes PlayStation.
Myscrnnm hates all who like the Nintendo System.
And KC says ITS MY FAULT?

BTW.
user posted image
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