Chuck Writes:
source: http://blogs.dfw.com/startle_grams/2006/05...ere_someth.html

k, so liberty elementary has a yearbook with a large nickle on the front because it says liberty on the nickel. creative huh? until they decided that the nickle saying "in god we trust" on it would offend those with other religons, so they photohopped it out. then, realizing that this might offend christian students they handed out stickers saying in god we trust on them for the students to, if they wished to do so, place the words back on.

is it just me or has political correctness just gone too far?

It's complete bull. "In god we trust" shouldnt be on our currency in the first place, but because it is it makes absolutly no sense to edit it out. It is in fact on our currency, and if it cant be placed on the nickel on the yearbook, then I guess there will soon be a giant athiest commune forming as a protest.

And why not? This nation was founded on Christian principles, and NOWHERE in the Constitution does it mandate seperation of church and state (and DO NOT say the 1st amendment, that is NOT what that means).

Sorry, don't mean to go off on a tangent, just a friendly discussion . Myscrnnm - you're not welcome in this discussion, go away.

Just because this nation was founded on Christian principles doesn't mean it has to STAY that way. Its an accepted style of thinking that religion and state have NOTHING to do with each other; otherwise, our great USA would have turned into the Christian hellhole that Europe was in in the Medieval Ages (witch trials, heretics burnings, Crusades, etc). I am so thankful that the founding fathers had the foresight to keep Christianity out of our government.

I don't have a nickle with me, so I'll use a quarter instead.

*looks* "In God We Trust"

Oh Noes!!!!!!11!!!1!! The political correctnesslessness!!!111!!!1!!!!1!

...Meh, it's just currency. I know, it seems silly to have to go through all that politically correct stuff, but then there's alot of lawsuit happy people out there too...

I think that it shouldn't matter about what is on the currecny as long as it stands for what is supposed to stand for: currency. Heck you could put the letter Q on our currency and someone would be offended by it. I mean, come on, get a life, do something important with your life like feeding homeless children in some third-world country instead of bickering about what is on our currency and insulting people who don't agree with us.

Does anyone know what I'm talking about?

i absolutely agree wif u

Or we could put "IMPDEV [President on currency name]" and I couldn't care less. I stand by my opinion that if someone is offended by "In God we trust" they have much bigger problems to worry about (like being offended by God...). We can put "Allah Ackbar" for all I care, I'm not offended by that .

It is politically incorrect for someone to be offended by the phrase "In God We Trust." That might offend someone.

more proof of how off track our society is. I have never found anybody offended by any political in-correctness yet we still have to avoid offending them.

I am offended by political corectness, therefore it is not politicaly correct.

why is it politicaly correct anyway

I hate political correctness. No one really cares. I've talked to non-christains about it. They say they really don't care at all. It's money. Who cares whats written on it. Its really retarded.

I don't give a rat's [bleeped!] about what's printed on my money. ITS MONEY, as in you buy crap with it, not money as in a good read.

It's just a bloody yearbook cover, it's not like it's going to change anything. Big whoop

If anything, let's slap the sticker on Bush.

Another thing: Isn't it discrimanating against non-christians if they are only handing out stickers to the christians? LOL That to me is hilarious, does anyone else find that funnny? So, technically, they are trading offense for discrimination. Ha ha ha ha ha haaaaa!

You don't have to be Christian to get a sticker, they just give the stickers out to anyone that wanted one.

Ahhh, ok, I got it now. I agree with chuck. I am offended by political correctness too. So, if there are a bunch of people who are offended by PC, then they could destroy it. We must get a group together and do so.

What the heck is wrong with you people? The argument has nothing to do with the existance of the phrase of "In God we trust." The problem is that if you are going to accuratly portray a nickel on the yearbook, then leave the nickel the **** alone! If you want to argue about the existance of the phrase on our currency, that's an entirely different matter.

Jeez... I leave you people alone for a week and everything goes to hell.

Like I said before, just a small yearbook in a big world.

you sincereley hate god dont you?just look at your avatar,i dont go to church,but thats still wrong.

I dont hate "God", because I know one doesnt exist. However, I do believe that the majority of serious christians have extremly nazi-like qualities. The only christians I respect are my parents, my grandmother, and my homosexual chorus teacher. The rest of the ones I know are complete pricks about it.

you dont respect yourself?(or your not christian)but you just dont BELIEVE in god,well,when you die,pete will greet you with a spas-12.( ) or your just another one of those people.no biggie.

I'm not christian, dur. And it's not that I dont believe, well, I'll just quote from a list of the "Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Christian"

"While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity."

And as for your second "point", I have another quote from the list.

"You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving.""

And the heck with heaven. If it turns out there's an afterlife I'm not even going to bother going anywhere near heaven. I'm going straight to Hell, because eternal suffering is nothing compared to having to spend eternity with a bunch of up-tight jerkwads.

Heh, heh.

So, anywho, people need to stop being so touchy about "political correctness" and focus on REAL things

well ya know what i think people who are all mad about that pollitical correctness should just deal with it, its like the davinci code move, book, game, ect
ITS NOT LIKE WERE SAYING WORSHIP GOD WERE JUST SAYING IN GOT WE TRUST for all those that are offended go to canada. their french.

I COMPLETELY agree with you! This country has gotten way out of control with what is politically correct and watch what you say and do it may offend someone. What happened to everyone has a right to believe what they wish. If you believe in God...then in God you trust...if you don't then you don't. Please people it really shouldn't be a huge issue like it is made to be. You're right...do something good with your spare time...the biggest lessons come from home. If you don't want your children to believe in God you will do the right thing and teach them YOUR beliefs not what others are. Stay out of everyone elses beliefs and worry about your own!

Actually, the Avatar is pretty funny. Even if you are Cristian, IT'S JUST A JOKE!

and we wish that everyone would listen to that.....

If we are referring to your past sig, that was pretty insulting in my opinion.

i hate to get into this but it was pretty offending

No..considering that most americans are christian...

Too bad so sad. I'm going to talk anyway. You people spoke of atheists starting a protest. lol, I am ROTFL!!!!!! If there's going to be any protesting, it would be from the crazy religious people. Cuz in case you haven't noticed, the people always going berserk over these issues are the religious people. Killing people ant whatnot. If anyone has any credibility, it's the atheists, Buddhists, Hindus, and Shintoists. All the other religions are practiced by people of violence.

Myscrnnm, you sound like you have had a bad experience with some kind of religion, and I am going to guess Christianity. Would you care to explain? And also, I would like to know why everyone hates myscrnnm.

Well, the Christians are very violent people. Often killing people because they believe themselves to be right about a certain topic. For instance, "heresy", "witchcraft", et cetera. Not to mention their stubborn views on no-choice, no stem cell research, blah blah blah. Plus, they seem to view atheists as a lower race. Also, the stuff they say is ludicrous. First of all, they speak of this God creating "man". God did not create the human race, the human race created God. The Bible is no more than a glorified book of fairy tales. And seriously, this talk of the first woman being made from a rib, pssh! And the Great Flood and Noah's Ark crap, that's all bull. This stuff just isn't physically possible. And we live in a physical realm, therefore logically making such occurances completely impossible. Christianity is just a tool used by emotionally and mentally weak people who refuse to learn of logical explanations for phenomena and instead use God as an explanation due to their low mental capacity.

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btw, everyone hates me cuz I'm always right and they just can't stand that. And I understand that, it's all part of the human psychology.

first of all, christian based killings have been hundreds of years before and the majority of christians regret that these killings ever happened. second allmost all religions have a great flood story. what is that, coincidence? also some of the greatest minds in the world have been christian, so are they weak minded?
for example
the wright brothers
isaac newton
and jim (buzz) irwin, the second man on the moon.

also, we all hate myscrnnm for his stubbornness (wow wasn't that one of the reasons he hated christians?) and his inability to accept others beliefs.

I don't go out and hate other religions or athiests, no, they don't bother me, what bothers me is when, for no reason the go and attack me because of my beliefs.

It's more because you think you're always right, when in fact that is far from the truth. I understand that it is all part of your screwed up psyche, but that doesnt make it any less of an annoyance.

Second place is the first of the losers.

Ahh, but you are generalizing. You say Christians are responsible for violence, but what sect of Christianity? Certain very popular sects of Buddhism in past centuries (and even now) practiced violence. Are we to say that Buddhism is violent because of this?

As for the Bible being fairy tales, can you same more of Hindu tales such as the Ramayana? Also, even atheists must admit that the Bible has a good deal of moral values in it.

I am not a violent person. I have no clue if I am right about heresy and the other things. Stem cell research kills an unborn baby every time some one who is payed to think wants to perform a test. I do not view athiests as a lower race. God did create the human race. The great flood is real, and Noah's Ark can be found in the mountains of Turkey. What's left of it anyway. I am not emotionally and mentally weak either. I know many logical explanations for phenomena, such as the northern lights. They are cause by waves from the sun. Last time I checked, my mental capacity was normal.

No offense myscrnnm, but I think I just proved you wrong. I just happen to be, or, I try to be, A christian. Some of the things you said that a Christian does I do not do. Am I right in saying that you are wrong?

The Bible encourages people to stone homosexuals in some of its passages, and sometimes subtely encourages people to show hostility towards Jews, for they are the "Children of Satan". Oh yes, great moral values.

It also states what a fair price is to sell your pre-teen to teenage daughter into prostitutional slavery.

it does not create hatred toward jews as the jewish bible is the old testament.

Can you prove this? Tell me what book, chapter and what verse.

Exactly. And tell me where you heard this stuff. I bet it's from a friend or someone who has never in their life read the bible.

I cant find the passage that speaks of payment, but this one should tide you over untill I do.

"When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment." (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

Just because it happened, it doesn't mean God condoned it. Men sold their daughters to a man to marry her, without any say on her part. Did God like it? Probably not, but just because it happened and is recorded in the Bible doesn't mean God was OK with it.

The bible sets up explicit rules for it. The same language is used to tell us that homosexuals should be stoned to death by their community, that a woman must make a blood sacrifice and a burnt sacrifice of two doves after her menstrual cycle, that one musnt wear clothing that is a blend of natural and un-natural fibers, etc. You cant pick and choose laws.

You're 100% right, we can't, however, the ones we do obey, such as no homosexuality, etc. are very very important.

So all the women of the world are going straight to hell for failing to repent for the sin that is menstruation, a good majority of us are going to hell for wearing clothes that blend natural and unnatural fibers, and just about everyone is going to hell for failing to participate in the stoning of homosexuals and those who commit adultery. We dont even kill people the way the Bible says to. Hanging, crucifixion, and stoning. That's about all we're supposed to use. No one crucifies or stones any more, and hangings hardly ever happen.

In short, we are all going to hell. Every last one of us.

No, that is NOT the case at all. No matter what you do, if you are a Christian, you will go to Heaven.

Then what is the point of following the rules at all? Just believe that christ died for your sins! With that in mind, why dont we all just run around raping, torturing, maiming and killing each other? Why dont we let all the priests bang all the little boys that they want? If, in the end, everyone who believes is going to heaven anyways, WHAT DOES IT MATTER?

If you ignore some rules you might as well ignore them all.