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Mynck
Where do you see the human race in 1000 years? I see it dead. Dead and gone.

This is pretty pessimistic though. Maybe we'll last for another 2000 years instead.
Spaceman3750
Heaven (or Hell for some unlucky people...). My personal view is that the return of Christ is very near. I wouldn't be surprised if it is going to be within our lifetime.

OK, now for my not-Christian view: The US is producing fewer and fewer scientists each generation, while Asian countries like Japan are producing more and more. I would expect that the US will no longer hold the top-dog spot in the world within the next 10-20 years, and possibly a downfall of the US in 50-60 years...
Korps Commander
The return of Shiva is very, very, very near, according to Hindu scriptures. (The world will end approximately 70-80 years from now, we think.) In the Vedas, its written that the Kali Yuga is upon is, which means that we have well entered a period of warfare, homosexuality, controversy, and cruelty unseen before. Shiva will come down upon Earth on a white horse, then seperate the just from the not-just. The just will achieve moksha, while the non-just will have to stay on a transformed Earth until their reincarnation cycle is complete.

Well, that's my view on it smile.gif
myscrnnm
QUOTE(Spaceman3750 @ Mar 7 2006, 06:48 PM)
The US is producing fewer and fewer scientists each generation, while Asian countries like Japan are producing more and more.  I would expect that the US will no longer hold the top-dog spot in the world within the next 10-20 years, and possibly a downfall of the US in 50-60 years...
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You sodding racist! mad.gif The Asians are humans too! mad.gif

You should be banned for this dehumanizing crap, not to mention deemed inept for the post of moderating.

btw, this is a Special Edition Post.
lappy512
QUOTE(myscrnnm @ Mar 7 2006, 09:41 PM)
You sodding racist! mad.gif The Asians are humans too! mad.gif

You should be banned for this dehumanizing crap, not to mention deemed inept for the post of moderating.

btw, this is a Special Edition Post.
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He says that Japanese are producing more scientests than the USA.
myscrnnm
QUOTE(lappy512 @ Mar 7 2006, 09:41 PM)
He says that Japanese are producing more scientests than the USA.
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What he said was that it's looking bad for the United States, and talking about our fate. Mynck was talking about the fate of the humans. In following that up by making the United States human but Asians not human, he is logically speaking of the Asians as not being human. READING COMPREHENSION!!!!!! bonk.gif bonk.gif bonk.gif

btw, I made this post cuz I was so incensed by lappy's total inability to understand.
Mynck
Do you always take stuff the wrong way?

So he went a bit off-topic and talked about he future of the United States instead of the future of humanity as a whole. That's understandable. You don't have to read racism into it. That'd be like these ridiculous guys accusing Green Day of Neo-Nazism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Green_Da...azi_Accusations. See? Ridiculous.
Spaceman3750
Sorry myscrnnm, I didn't intend it that way, it came out wrong wink.gif.
thisoldmage
QUOTE(Korps Commander @ Mar 7 2006, 08:18 PM)
The return of Shiva is very, very, very near, according to Hindu scriptures. (The world will end approximately 70-80 years from now, we think.) In the Vedas, its written that the Kali Yuga is upon is, which means that we have well entered a period of warfare, homosexuality, controversy, and cruelty unseen before. Shiva will come down upon Earth on a white horse, then seperate the just from the not-just. The just will achieve moksha, while the non-just will have to stay on a transformed Earth until their reincarnation cycle is complete.

Well, that's my view on it smile.gif
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I agree


QUOTE(myscrnnm @ Mar 7 2006, 10:51 PM)
What he said was that it's looking bad for the United States, and talking about our fate. Mynck was talking about the fate of the humans. In following that up by making the United States human but Asians not human, he is logically speaking of the Asians as not being human. READING COMPREHENSION!!!!!! bonk.gif  bonk.gif  bonk.gif

btw, I made this post cuz I was so incensed by lappy's total inability to understand.
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I sort of understood that he believed that the human race as a whole would be great, with the Asians on the top, but that the United States would die.

I think he believed that THAT would be the end of his world.


I think that the world may end, but us Asians will have the technology to go up into space at that time.
(please don't take my comment as rascist)
chuck
even if you did get into space there would be no way to survive without an entire miniearth spaceship.
Spaceman3750
QUOTE(Korps Commander @ Mar 7 2006, 09:18 PM)
The return of Shiva is very, very, very near, according to Hindu scriptures. (The world will end approximately 70-80 years from now, we think.) In the Vedas, its written that the Kali Yuga is upon is, which means that we have well entered a period of warfare, homosexuality, controversy, and cruelty unseen before. Shiva will come down upon Earth on a white horse, then seperate the just from the not-just. The just will achieve moksha, while the non-just will have to stay on a transformed Earth until their reincarnation cycle is complete.

Well, that's my view on it smile.gif
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Hmm, I never realized how the Christian end-of-the-world prophecies are so close to the Hindu ones (except for the end, with the whole reincarnation cycle thing...).
thisoldmage
QUOTE(chuck @ Mar 8 2006, 03:09 PM)
even if you did get into space there would be no way to survive without an entire miniearth spaceship.
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We could colonize a habitable planet, or make one habitable.
And we could have a miniearth spaceship, if we wanted
chuck
a miniearth space ship would be near impossible, as it is impossible to immitate the sunlight as there is no place in our solar system other than here that recieves the correct amount of sunlight. also, the ship would be too big and require too much fuel to ever leave our solar system to find a habitatible planet. A final thought, a mini ecosystem has been built on earth twice (biosphere and biosphere2) and neither try worked well enough to replicate it on a space station much less a space ship.
Mynck
We have a ton of miniminiEarth spaceships, and each will collect and store tons of energy as matter and antimatter as we pass stars. A moving asteroid could provide plenty of energy if we can manage to stop it.
thisoldmage
QUOTE(chuck @ Mar 8 2006, 03:47 PM)
a miniearth space ship would be near impossible, as it is impossible to immitate the sunlight as there is no place in our solar system other than here that recieves the correct amount of sunlight.  also, the ship would be too big and require too much fuel to ever leave our solar system to find a habitatible planet. A final thought, a mini ecosystem has been built on earth twice (biosphere and biosphere2) and neither try worked well enough to replicate it on a space station much less a space ship.
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This is going on a tangent, but don't you think we could find a habitable planet?

After that its just getting there. We have no idea where our space capabilities will be in 100 years. I mean, by 2010 you are supposed to be able to take trips into space commercially.

At this point in time its currently its impossible, but in the future we may have a chance, also couldn't we planet hop to a habitable planet, quite a few places in the galaxy have fuel, I remember Titan having fuel.

I've seen this
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New computer simulations of known extrasolar planetary systems suggest about half of them could harbor an Earth-like world, mathematically speaking.
space.com


We could most likely create a habitat, eventually.

We just need teleportation thats faster than light, we could use probability, bad news, or bistromathics
Mynck
QUOTE(thisoldmage @ Mar 8 2006, 03:12 PM)
We just need teleportation thats faster than light, we could use probability, bad news, or bistromathics
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You mean improbability?
thisoldmage
QUOTE(Mynck @ Mar 8 2006, 04:26 PM)
You mean improbability?
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no, I was just making obscure refrence to the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy
Mynck
Yeah, so improbablity
Korps Commander
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I agree


Yay.

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Hmm, I never realized how the Christian end-of-the-world prophecies are so close to the Hindu ones (except for the end, with the whole reincarnation cycle thing...).


I was going to say something, but I'll keep my mouth shut or...someone...will go running off to tell lappy rolleyes.gif

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This is going on a tangent, but don't you think we could find a habitable planet?


Sure, if we could get there. We can't even get out of our solar system right now; what makes you think we'd manage that anytime soon?


chuck
I personally believe that it will be nearly impossible to find a habitible planet let alone live on it. I think that the most effective solution would be a miniearth spaceship, however difficult it would be to build. I know that you all are saying I'm just contradicting myself, but in the possibly near future we could do it. I just don't think we could now.
Mynck
QUOTE(chuck @ Mar 9 2006, 10:04 AM)
I personally believe that it will be nearly impossible to find a habitible planet let alone live on it.  I think that the most effective solution would be a miniearth spaceship, however difficult it would be to build.  I know that you all are saying I'm just contradicting myself, but in the possibly near future we could do it.  I just don't think we could now.
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If a planet is inhabitable, then by golly, we'll make it habitable.
Qlumpa
QUOTE(Mynck @ Mar 9 2006, 04:01 PM)
If a planet is inhabitable, then by golly, we'll make it habitable.
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I agree, the human race is pretty good at addapting it's enviornment so it's hospitable, so the whole race could live for a pretty long time...assuming we don't kill each other first that is...
Korps Commander
I personally find it funny that we don't adapt to the environment. We make the environment adapt to us. tongue.gif
chuck
I still can't see how you can make a planet habitable. without sufficient oxygen, sunlight, and atmosphere, it is impossible

I personally believe that even 100 years in the future it will still be beyond us.
Mynck
1. We make oxygen (trees and algae!).
2. We make (import, ship, channel) sunlight.
3. We make atmosphere (provided there's enough gravity).
lappy512
Remember, not all of the atmosphere is Oxygen. Too much is harmful, too...
Senor Halo Blue 9
QUOTE(Spaceman3750 @ Mar 7 2006, 07:48 PM)
Heaven (or Hell for some unlucky people...).  My personal view is that the return of Christ is very near.  I wouldn't be surprised if it is going to be within our lifetime.

OK, now for my not-Christian view:  The US is producing fewer and fewer scientists each generation, while Asian countries like Japan are producing more and more.  I would expect that the US will no longer hold the top-dog spot in the world within the next 10-20 years, and possibly a downfall of the US in 50-60 years...
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I am not exactly sure about Christ himself but I do believe that some spirtiual leader with mystical poweres will hopefully liberate us all from the sorrow we have each and every day...
Spaceman3750
What the US wants the end of the world to be: We take over the world, no end.

China: We launch 300 nukes at the US, launch the rest everywhere else. If we survive, great, we'll probably die from fallout anyway...

Me: Sending a nuke through the front door of 9-10 nusciances at my school. Then taking out Kerry, Gore, and Clinton. Move to the UK, finish off the US, and work from there. I move to the moon with 10 nukes, fire them in random directions towards earth, and laugh hystarically.

PS - I'm not that crazy wink.gif.
chuck
QUOTE(Mynck @ Mar 9 2006, 11:01 PM)
1. We make oxygen (trees and algae!).
2. We make (import, ship, channel) sunlight.
3. We make atmosphere (provided there's enough gravity).
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please explain the following;

1. how do you grow these plants in the soil if it does not contain nutrients found on earth.
2. how the oxygen would not escape without atmosphere.
3. how we can build an artificial atmosphere
4. how we could have an effective water cycle without
A. water
B. sunlight
5. how we can import the correct amount of sunlight if we don't even know how much it is.
6. how we can import sunlight in the first place.
if you can explain all of these then I will believe you about making a planet habitable
Mynck
QUOTE(chuck @ Mar 10 2006, 03:20 PM)
1. how do you grow these plants in the soil if it does not contain nutrients found on earth.

1. We make it have nutrients found on Earth.
2. We make the plants grow on soil without the nutrients found on Earth.
3. We import some soil from Earth.
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2. how the oxygen would not escape without atmosphere.

We make an atmosphere, provided there's enough gravity.
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3. how we can build an artificial atmosphere

We put in a ton of nitrogen, oxygen, and let it stew. If there are poisonous gases... sucks.
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4. how we could have an effective water cycle without
    A. water
    B. sunlight

Who said we needed a water cycle? We make the planet have enough sunlight and water. We can do this by channeling sunlight using mirrors or solar panels or something. Else we can just use plumbing.
QUOTE
5. how we can import the correct amount of sunlight if we don't even know how much it is.

Uh... guess and check?
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6. how we can import sunlight in the first place.

Solar panels or mirrors. Something like that.
GameClaw_268
What Mynck is talking about is a multi-Trillion dollar operation, but if humanity depends on it, so be it.

I believe, however, the world will still be habitable in 1000 years. Not only that, but efforts to Terraform Mars and the Moon, if not already complete, would be underway. There would also be small colonies on these planets. In 1000 more years, those colonies may evolve into superpowers, like the US from Britan, or simply follow the founding countries laws.

I also imagine that in 1000 years, Europe, maybe not with Russia, will be its own country, and one helluva superpower.
Mynck
QUOTE(GameClaw_268 @ Mar 10 2006, 06:26 PM)
What Mynck is talking about is a multi-Trillion dollar operation, but if humanity depends on it, so be it.
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That's an underestimate.
chuck
with 1000 years inflation I estimate a multi-quintillion dollar operation
Mynck
I estimate that much without inflation.

The dollar might not exist then, either.
Spaceman3750
No, the Euro will dominate the world!

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