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What are the diffrences between Halo 1 and Halo 2? I know some Halo 1 has a better storyline then Halo 2 but Halo 2 has awsome graphics an upgraded suit and an vast array of new weapons and pilotable vehicles but i saw that Halo 1 had more powerful weapon for example the plasma pistol it was way more powerful then in Halo 2. But what else it's been a burning question ever since i got Halo 1 and Halo 2.
Also, the assualt rifle is gone, it's replaced by the SMG, which has recoil. There's also a battle rifle, which fires 3-shot bursts. There's no jump damage in Halo 2. I don't play Halo/2 much, so maybe someone else can elaborate. 
As far as Xbox Goes, Halo 2 also has all the online multiplayer features of Halo PC, whereas Halo1 for the Xbox has almost nothing for online play.
QUOTE(GameClaw_268 @ Mar 4 2006, 11:35 AM)
As far as Xbox Goes, Halo 2 also has all the online multiplayer features of Halo PC, whereas Halo1 for the Xbox has almost nothing for online play.
I think halo 1 dosen't have any online capabilities on xbox
It sucks how they didn't have Sidewinder in Halo 2. That was my favorite multiplayer map.
It also sucks how the needler got a huge downgrade. It used to take 7 needles to make someone blow up. Now it takes like 15 needles, and they don't track the enemy as well as they used to.
The shotgun and pistol also got downgraded. The pistol lost its scope.
The bansees can no longer use fuel rod cannons in multiplayer, although they did get cool tricks that let you dodge stuff easily.
You get to play as an Elite, and use active camo.
More later... my notebook's battery is running out and someone stole the AC adapter. How annoying.
It also sucks how the needler got a huge downgrade. It used to take 7 needles to make someone blow up. Now it takes like 15 needles, and they don't track the enemy as well as they used to.
The shotgun and pistol also got downgraded. The pistol lost its scope.
The bansees can no longer use fuel rod cannons in multiplayer, although they did get cool tricks that let you dodge stuff easily.
You get to play as an Elite, and use active camo.
More later... my notebook's battery is running out and someone stole the AC adapter. How annoying.
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hanges from Halo 1
Veterans of Halo 1 will recognize a number of changes—some obvious, some not so obvious—to the combat. A comprehensive list of such differences would be enormous and not really within the scope of this project. Still, I thought it would be helpful to list a few of the less heralded ones that, in my opinion, most directly impact the combat.
* No more backpack reload or double melee.
* Grenade throwing distance and blast radius have been reduced.
* The hit points of enemies have been dramatically increased, making them significantly more difficult to kill.
* A stuck plasma grenade is no longer an automatic kill. At full strength, brutes can sometimes survive the blast and gray elites will always survive (though a second grenade will always finish the job).
* Although it is still the most useful weapon in the game against elites, the effectiveness of the plasma pistol has been somewhat reduced. The charged shot is not quite so easy to lock on to enemies, and it takes a bit longer to charge up. Also, it overheats more quickly during normal firing with respect to the time needed to kill enemies, making it much less useful against grunts and jackals.
* It is now almost impossible to kill enemies directly with the plasma pistol overcharge.
* The plasma pistol overcharge no longer automatically cancels actions and stuns at close range. Elites can sometimes keep right on firing or bash you with a melee attack immediately after absorbing a charged shot.
* Melee attack range has been reduced.
* Elites no longer always stop and roar when stuck with a plasma grenade. On the contrary, they'll often keep charging right at you, making close-range use of plasma grenades riskier.
* Elites are somewhat more vulnerable to sniping, as every shot will stagger them for a short time, making it much easier to line up subsequent shots.
* Sniper shots can now penetrate jackal shields.
* The rate of fire of the plasma rifle has been noticeably increased.
* The effective range and reloading rate of the shotgun have been reduced.
* You now exit the ghost on the left side, rather than the right.
* You and your passengers can now take collision damage when driving vehicles.
* You cannot die from grenade damage while inside a vehicle.
* Vehicle collisions with enemies on foot no longer result in automatic kills regardless of velocity.
* Enemies can flip overturned vehicles.
* Cloaking technology is apparently not what it used to be; cloaked enemies are now much easier to see.
* You no longer take fall damage.
* Flood infection forms do considerably more damage now, while exploding carrier forms seem to do less.
* Presumably due to the changed physics engine, vehicles no longer have their "floaty" or "bouncy" feel, and their handling is generally much stiffer. Try driving a ghost into a scorpion, wraith, or warthog now, and you'll clunk right into the front if it, rather than bouncing over it.
* You can now carry weapons between certain levels (e.g., you will begin metropolis with the same weapons you're carrying at the end of outskirts).
Veterans of Halo 1 will recognize a number of changes—some obvious, some not so obvious—to the combat. A comprehensive list of such differences would be enormous and not really within the scope of this project. Still, I thought it would be helpful to list a few of the less heralded ones that, in my opinion, most directly impact the combat.
* No more backpack reload or double melee.
* Grenade throwing distance and blast radius have been reduced.
* The hit points of enemies have been dramatically increased, making them significantly more difficult to kill.
* A stuck plasma grenade is no longer an automatic kill. At full strength, brutes can sometimes survive the blast and gray elites will always survive (though a second grenade will always finish the job).
* Although it is still the most useful weapon in the game against elites, the effectiveness of the plasma pistol has been somewhat reduced. The charged shot is not quite so easy to lock on to enemies, and it takes a bit longer to charge up. Also, it overheats more quickly during normal firing with respect to the time needed to kill enemies, making it much less useful against grunts and jackals.
* It is now almost impossible to kill enemies directly with the plasma pistol overcharge.
* The plasma pistol overcharge no longer automatically cancels actions and stuns at close range. Elites can sometimes keep right on firing or bash you with a melee attack immediately after absorbing a charged shot.
* Melee attack range has been reduced.
* Elites no longer always stop and roar when stuck with a plasma grenade. On the contrary, they'll often keep charging right at you, making close-range use of plasma grenades riskier.
* Elites are somewhat more vulnerable to sniping, as every shot will stagger them for a short time, making it much easier to line up subsequent shots.
* Sniper shots can now penetrate jackal shields.
* The rate of fire of the plasma rifle has been noticeably increased.
* The effective range and reloading rate of the shotgun have been reduced.
* You now exit the ghost on the left side, rather than the right.
* You and your passengers can now take collision damage when driving vehicles.
* You cannot die from grenade damage while inside a vehicle.
* Vehicle collisions with enemies on foot no longer result in automatic kills regardless of velocity.
* Enemies can flip overturned vehicles.
* Cloaking technology is apparently not what it used to be; cloaked enemies are now much easier to see.
* You no longer take fall damage.
* Flood infection forms do considerably more damage now, while exploding carrier forms seem to do less.
* Presumably due to the changed physics engine, vehicles no longer have their "floaty" or "bouncy" feel, and their handling is generally much stiffer. Try driving a ghost into a scorpion, wraith, or warthog now, and you'll clunk right into the front if it, rather than bouncing over it.
* You can now carry weapons between certain levels (e.g., you will begin metropolis with the same weapons you're carrying at the end of outskirts).
But yeah, the main difference is XBL(live play)
And in Halo 2, Flood Combat things can be reinfected by an infection form after killing it a first time.
Also, in my opinion, the graphics in the first Halo looked better for the most part.
Also, in my opinion, the graphics in the first Halo looked better for the most part.
halo 1 graphics wernt better than halo 2 in the first place,and second how the hell do you notice all these things anyway.i mean im a halo fan and i dont even notice have the stuff ur talkin bout.
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* Cloaking technology is apparently not what it used to be; cloaked enemies are now much easier to see.
Funny
Also, I guess that they figured how to make recoil (the SMG, the new counterpart to the Assualt rifle, has recoil).
Where'd you get those facts, thisoldmage?
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* Cloaking technology is apparently not what it used to be; cloaked enemies are now much easier to see.
Not to mention the Arbiter's cloaking device...
...I mean, if you're the holy savior of the covenant then at least they could do you a favor and upgrade your crappy armor.
of course his amours bad it has 2 be or else the game be easy.anyway any of you know anything about glitches in halo 2 or if theres a things called legandary skulls.ppl told me there super hard 2 get but r so [bleeped!] cool 
QUOTE(smax10000 @ Mar 6 2006, 04:48 PM)
of course his amours bad it has 2 be or else the game be easy.anyway any of you know anything about glitches in halo 2 or if theres a things called legandary skulls.ppl told me there super hard 2 get but r so [bleeped!] cool My favorite glitch is sword flying,
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Specifically, in order to perform this trick, zoom in on any enemy until the reticle of your weapon is red, and then (in the default control scheme) hold Y, release it, and immediately press X and Right Trigger in quick succession. I don't know why pressing X is necessary, but apparently it is. I had a good deal of trouble getting this trick to work at first, and the bit of advice that finally helped me to get it right was to slide your finger from Y to X, and then press the Right Trigger as quickly as possible (almost simultaneous with X). While you're flying through the air, you can press A to jump even higher. It may be difficult to grasp from the description, but once you succeed and then practice for a bit to get the feel, I can attest that it becomes much more routine. Any scoped weapon—even the 10x zoom on the sniper rifle!—will work, as long as you're close enough to turn the aiming reticle red.
Glitches are all over, use up all your sword in Outskirts and it'll never run out in metropolis
http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/xbox/code/562116.html
Have any of you collected the oddball skulls, I've collected almost all.
My info was from http://nikon.bungie.org/gameplay/halo2_leg_walk/
The skulls are easy dude
Well, except for the few that are so frustratingly hidden.
Well, except for the few that are so frustratingly hidden.
wow i didnt even get any skulls yet and i search in every place i could think of.i know of a glitch where u can make a scorpian tank spin really fast and ur able 2 shoot still.and isnt the sword trick when ur in a warthog and u lock on 2 sum1 and they could run anywhere and when u get out ull fly straight at em.
QUOTE(smax10000 @ Mar 7 2006, 02:20 PM)
wow i didnt even get any skulls yet and i search in every place i could think of.i know of a glitch where u can make a scorpian tank spin really fast and ur able 2 shoot still.and isnt the sword trick when ur in a warthog and u lock on 2 sum1 and they could run anywhere and when u get out ull fly straight at em.
The flying sword trick ive heard of that but ive never been able to make it work DAM U SGT.JOHNSON I WILL PWN U!!!!!!!!!!!
QUOTE(Sgt.Stealth @ Mar 7 2006, 05:33 PM)
The flying sword trick ive heard of that but ive never been able to make it work DAM U SGT.JOHNSON I WILL PWN U!!!!!!!!!!!
haha u cant do sword trick
QUOTE(smax10000 @ Mar 9 2006, 11:50 AM)
haha u cant do sword trick
ME... YOU... SNIPER... BLOOD GULCH... GAME OVER!
the shotgun in halo 2 has more pellets than in halo 1 but it doesn't have the ammo 
i heard of a "party skull" in one level. when you shoot enemies in the head they explode.
Please don't double-post. There's a handy little "Edit" button to use if you want to add to your original post.
i heard of a "party skull" in one level. when you shoot enemies in the head they explode.
Please don't double-post. There's a handy little "Edit" button to use if you want to add to your original post.
The Grunt Birthday Party skull can be found near the end of the Arbiter level in Legendary difficulty, when you're in a banshee. You fly down to the bottom of the structure, where there should be three large, fat, cone-shaped-ish pillar-like-things. On top of one of these pillars, in the narrow space between it and the main body of the structure, there should be about 6 grunts dancing around a... *gasp* OMGskull!
I use this thing all the time.
It only works with semi-automatic fire, though, like pistols, carbines, battle rifles, sniper rifles, etc.
I use this thing all the time.
It only works with semi-automatic fire, though, like pistols, carbines, battle rifles, sniper rifles, etc.
haha exploding heads r sick but isnt that like really hard 2 finish the level if u get it?
No. It's really close to the end of the level, though, so you probably won't get to use it in that level.
oh ok thanks i get it now
Halo is the [bleeped!].
Half-Life is the win.
Half-Life is the win.
QUOTE(ParaDoX @ Mar 31 2006, 06:59 PM)
Halo is the [bleeped!].
Half-Life is the win.
Half-Life is the win.
omg halo to half-life is like f*kin xbox360 to game boy colour
How so? I mean, they're both FPS's, eh? They are very comparable.
However, Half-Life 2 (maybe not so much 1) is far better than Halo ever could be(in the near future
), in terms of gameplay, graphics, and interactivity. Personally, I think it has a better story, too.
But this isn't about Half-Life, this is about Halo. So, lets keep it to the subject.
However, Half-Life 2 (maybe not so much 1) is far better than Halo ever could be(in the near future
), in terms of gameplay, graphics, and interactivity. Personally, I think it has a better story, too.But this isn't about Half-Life, this is about Halo. So, lets keep it to the subject.
halo's wayyyy to overrated.
that is bullshi- 
halo IS THE BEST FRIKIN GAME ON FRIKIN EARTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
halo IS THE BEST FRIKIN GAME ON FRIKIN EARTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You aren't convincing anyone like that.
QUOTE(Sgt.Stealth @ Mar 4 2006, 08:40 AM)
What are the diffrences between Halo 1 and Halo 2? I know some Halo 1 has a better storyline then Halo 2 but Halo 2 has awsome graphics an upgraded suit and an vast array of new weapons and pilotable vehicles but i saw that Halo 1 had more powerful weapon for example the plasma pistol it was way more powerful then in Halo 2. But what else it's been a burning question ever since i got Halo 1 and Halo 2.
in halo 2 there are less levels,but they're way longer than halo 1's levels
Ok, this topic has gone hopelessly noobish.
Next person to post noobish stuff will be warned.
Next person to post noobish stuff will be warned.
I know this is going to be completely off-subject, but it is non-noobish. I have a friend who thinks that when you shoot the scarab gun on halo 2, it is green. This is completely and totally wrong. For those of us who have actually shot the scarab gun, we know that it is blue. Actually, it has some green spikes coming off of it, but you can't see those. The entire blast is blue! Of you guys wanna know his name, I think it is Twitch something.....I'm not sure what is after that......
i like halo 2 better
halo 2 owns. 
#2s alright. i like #1 better
QUOTE(guitar_freak22 @ May 26 2006, 03:49 PM)
I know this is going to be completely off-subject, but it is non-noobish. I have a friend who thinks that when you shoot the scarab gun on halo 2, it is green. This is completely and totally wrong. For those of us who have actually shot the scarab gun, we know that it is blue. Actually, it has some green spikes coming off of it, but you can't see those. The entire blast is blue! Of you guys wanna know his name, I think it is Twitch something.....I'm not sure what is after that......
Holy crap you did all that to get to the mini scarab gun wow you must be a real gamer or a person with nothing to do all day.
but you flew u actually FLEW in and launched out of the warthog and killed marines with a secret energy sword in outskirts?!?!
QUOTE(Sgt.Stealth @ Jun 24 2006, 06:28 AM)
Holy crap you did all that to get to the mini scarab gun wow you must be a real gamer or a person with nothing to do all day. but you flew u actually FLEW in and launched out of the warthog and killed marines with a secret energy sword in outskirts?!?!
but you flew u actually FLEW in and launched out of the warthog and killed marines with a secret energy sword in outskirts?!?!What secret energy sword? There was no energy sword involved. You don't have to kill marines either. You just fly the banshee out of the tunnel, but not before you come to the small tunnel, otherwise the banshee will explode. The you go to this bridge that is too hard to explain where you can find it, and it will be floating on top of an orange cone and will say you picked up a plasma rifle when you pick it up. Yes, I consider myself a real gamer.
guitar_freak22 is right but you should kill the marines or else they destroy the banshee and you use the ghost to lure a banshee in to the tunnel and get in that one silo place and then high-jack the banshee. Also to clear up any problems the scarb gun is a plasma rifle that looks the exact smae exept really strong. Also Halo 1 is way better then Halo 2. The first Halo was more fun and had a better story and it lasted at last a few days of fun gameplay. Halo 2 on the other hand had a horrible storyline and even though the grahpics may have had a upgrade and new weapons but the game lasted only five hours and they made they human pistol really bad
QUOTE(Native Pride @ Jul 2 2006, 01:51 AM)
guitar_freak22 is right but you should kill the marines or else they destroy the banshee and you use the ghost to lure a banshee in to the tunnel and get in that one silo place and then high-jack the banshee. Also to clear up any problems the scarb gun is a plasma rifle that looks the exact smae exept really strong. Also Halo 1 is way better then Halo 2. The first Halo was more fun and had a better story and it lasted at last a few days of fun gameplay. Halo 2 on the other hand had a horrible storyline and even though the grahpics may have had a upgrade and new weapons but the game lasted only five hours and they made they human pistol really bad
No, you don't need a ghost to lure the banshee inside the tunnel, you use the marine on the gun turret in the warthog to lure the banshee in, other wise, if you do it with the ghost it will take you longer because it does not hold the banshee pilot's attention....also, you have to be careful when using the marine in the turret, you have to do a few ebrake powerslides to keep him from shooting it completely down.
Well i guess your right but you need to get rid of that marine with the ricket luancher or else they will shoot down the banshee and you keep the banshee attention by shooting it
halo 2 has a better online play, but one has better 1'st player
I have to agree with Chuck but Halo 1 came out when the stages of online play were still be worked on.
QUOTE(chuck @ Jul 3 2006, 02:03 AM)
halo 2 has a better online play, but one has better 1'st player
So true. Halo has the best story, and Halo2 has all the cool graphics and weapons.
Especially the scarab gun.
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