the ps3's predicted manufacturing cost is $795 without the optional hardrive, and $900 with it. Since the xbox 360 loses $100-125 because it costs more to make than they sell it for, to compete with this Sony would have to sell at about $699. No one is going to buy it for that much. to make most people buy it, they would have to sell it for no more than $500, which would make them lose $300 on each console.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6144600.html

That's a lot, but that's of course predicted. Too bad Myscrnnm isn't here to argue with you.

$700!?

Dang, I was thinking about getting one along with the rev. but for $700!? That's crazy.

Heh, what did you expect? If you want the best stuff, it's gonna cost you.

Hmm, I suppose...come to think of it, I'm pretty sure there's positively no way I can afford a PS3 at that price . Anyway, typically I'm not too fussy about the technology when playing games, just how good the game is itself. Hopefully a lot of it's titles will be for other systems too.

you're gonna have to REALLY love final fantasy if you're getting one now...

Yeah, but if the PS3 loses popularity there is a chance Square could go to another bigger console to better its sales, so in the end you would have it for xbox or something/

A few hardcore gamers would get the console, but at $800-900 Sonys gaming platform would completely die out,

I'm really looking forward to a Final Fantasy VII Remake like the one in a tech-demo (if it even actually comes out). If not, then the PS3 is essentially off my list (unless they bring more Katamari Damacy ).

well like thisoldmage said, if sony bombs then they might go with another company.

Yeah and w/ a manufacturing cost that high, I've heard that they could only put [lees than the 1million they want] consoles out a year, meaning that they wouldn't get as big a community as microsoft/nintendo,
Also, they are expeceted to lose 295$ on the console, and that means to make up that money they have to earn $300 on games per person, and the games wont sell for >50$ so they are going to atleast need everyone to buy like 10 games to break even.
Face it, Sony is out of the industry,

I also saw this somewhere


You know after this year the Xbox 360, may be the market controller, Gamecube has 5 titiles currently, although most of them look good and its coming out late,
We know the PS3's problems.

SOnyis banking on a Blueray drive, unreleased new costly media, I mean w/ sony its predictable (PS1-CD, PS2-dvd...) but cds/dvds had been out for a while

But then again

Kaz Hirai from Sony said , that people see the cutting edge tech going into these Sony systems, and people overstate the price. At the end, they bring out affordable systems.

Its all in chance, but there is a big chance that sony is going to die.


Btw, if sony dies, there going to leave the PS3 out, they lost money on the PS2 for the first two years/

did i forget to mention that because of blue-ray disks, the games could cost $90?! that's another losing strategy for sony.

I imagine square will leave sony for the same reason they left Nintendo, the Media cost too much. With the N64, it was expensive cartriges, for the PS3, Blu-Ray. I really would like Blu-Ray to suceed, but with the incredibly high prices, people are more likely to get a USB HD that holds more. For Blu-Ray's price to go down, it has to catch on, like the DVD. Unfortunantly, the high-price may prevent this.

Wrong. Blu-ray fabrication isn't considerably more expensive than DVD fabrication. With the SNES, N64, and PlayStation, the difference was huge, cuz optical storage is so much cheaper, but this is different. In case you didn't already know, Blu-ray and DVD are both optical storage mediums.

The price is 600 so don't worry and the 360 is going to have a price drop soon about the same time as the PS3 comes out

Microsoft denied that.

Yeah but rumers are everywhere also why would they not lower the price with the hoilday season comoing up

rumors are hardly ever true, especially if they've already been denied. besides, the 360's only been out for a year. it's not old enough for a price drop yet.

The 360 has not been out for a while but it is in alot of magazines

Now, I've heard the rumours too, and there have been price drops in the U.K.. But you say why would they not lower the price, one simple reason - they don't need to. Why should they give cheapskates more money when they don't need to? The Xbox 360 is still $100-$200 USD cheaper than the PlayStation 3, and outperforms the Wii by so much that even if the Wii was $50, people would still be buying the Xbox 360, well maybe not everyone, but serious gamers.

I realy hate to say it but at the price ps3 is at, i just might have to buy a 360 its the next best thing to a ps3, i dont think i would ever sink down to buying a wii, unless some guy robed me and stole almost all my money and he stole all my consoles and games.

I guess you could just wait until a price drop. I'm waiting a year, cuz that's also a good time to see how well it actually performs, and let SCEI get rid of any problems with the system. But still, SCEI has such a fine reputation. With the original PlayStation and the PlayStation 2, the only real problem was the DVD read head, which happens with a lot of things anyway. And even then, it was after several years of use.

Well if the PS3 is a good as you say microsoft needs a way to get more amers on there side before the PS3 comes out. Also if you lower the price they might be able to get younger kids to get a 360 instead of wii. Which is really bad because if little kids start getting a 360 there are going more baby games for it.


The Wii is not bad it does not comapre to the 360 or even the PS3. But microsoft even said don't buy a PS3 buy a 360 and a Wii and i like the Wii it will make a good secondary console to a real game machine like the 360 or the PS3

And Reggie shot that down.

Any serious gamers will try to get their hands on every console.

Yeah but what about people that don't get there parents to buy them everything.

Parents won't opt for a 600 dollar console anyway, unless they had money to spare. People serious about their games would work for their consoles anyway.

Are you going to some how get 1150 to buy a Wii a PS3 and a 360.

No, people who love to waste money would do that. Serious gamers will get the best consoles, namely the PlayStation 3 and the Xbox 360. The only smart people who would get all of them would be like video game memorabilia collectors.

I'm not getting a PS3. I'm letting my friend take care of that, we go over to each other's house often. He makes 16 an hour, working 6 hours a day, except fridays and the weekends, I get 10 an hour doing the same thing.

You have no taste.

wow i can't believe there was and end to this page with that signature....

that's just an oppinion. he might not want it cause it's so pricey. can you blame him? he might not want it because there's no single game that's making everyone talk. if it doesn't appeal it doesn't mean he has no taste it means he has different tastes... or a low budget. besides, he said he'd just play it at his friends house. that way he can judge a ps3 for himself without buying one and POSSIBLY not liking it. (please don't go ranting about this it's not a big deal)

That's cuz the PlayStation 3 has too many games that are making everyone talk (that is, everyone except the Nintendo fanboys). Here are just a few:

Assassin's Creed*
Battlefield: Bad Company
Call of Duty 3
F.E.A.R.
Final Fantasy XIII*
Gran Turismo HD*
Grand Theft Auto IV
Half-Life 2
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots*
Resident Evil 5
Resistance: Fall of Man*

(exclusive games are market with an asterisk)

Plus, you don't get to comment cuz none of these non-exclusives are even on the Wii.

except call of duty 3. do a little research. meanwhile the top talked about games are the wii exclusives, namely super smash bros brawl, twilight princess, and metroid prime 3.

Wow, I made one mistake, big deal. Compared to your what, um, like 700? SSBB is crap, the only good character in it is Solid Snake. And Metroid is just retarded.

you can't know that without the release, not to mention the fact that it's the sequel of the most popular fighter of this generation and one of the most anticipated games, second only to twilight princess by gamestats. metroid comes in a 6, with halo3, mario galxy, and gears of war in between. um, which one of those was on the ps3 again... oh yeah. NONE. most proffesional game critics will even say metriod prime was better than halo, although the fact it made you use your brain drove a few fans away. it's story may get weird, but there's no denying its fantastic gameplay.

Metroid Prime was dull. MP: Hunters for the DS is only good IMO because of online play.

Mainly Red Steel and Zelda Actually.
There's also Mario Strikers, Fire Emblem, Battalion Wars 2, Pokemon Battle Revolution, Resident Evil, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Sonic Secret Rings, Super Mario Galaxy, DBZ: Budokai Tenkaichi 2, Rayman Raving Rabbids, Quite a few of the downloadables, Wii Sports, etc.

I rest my case.

I would gat a Ps3 but i don't have the money or the urge to get work for 600 dollars


The game on the PS3 that i want alot is warhawk and Resistance:Fall of Man. I was never a big fan of the Final fantasy and Resident Evil had better be as good as Re4