Mynck
Aug 26 2005, 10:21 AM
The Japanese military is very weak and limited right now. Japan itself is afraid of letting its government have a more powerful military after WWII, more so than the rest of the world seems to care. Should they be allowed a stronger military?
myscrnnm
Aug 26 2005, 10:28 AM
I believe that Japan should be able to amass a larger military. They have the technology to do it, after all. And the United States owes them hundreds of billions of dollars.
Korps Commander
Aug 26 2005, 10:29 AM
They should not. They have already abused their power in WWII, why give them another chance?
anthonytc22
Aug 26 2005, 10:30 AM
It seems to me like spending lots of money on their military would simply be a waste of money. I mean, they are not likely to be attacked all out any time soon. Even if they were, there would be quite a response from the rest of the world. It seems like all the money that they would put into bombs, etc. could and is being used for better things. One of the reasons why Japan is right up there with Europe and America in terms of domestic strength is becuase it has spent a lot of effort developing its domestic infrastructure, economy, etc. If they spent a lot of money on their military, they would have a weaker domestic infrastructure.
myscrnnm
Aug 26 2005, 10:32 AM
QUOTE(Korps Commander @ Aug 26 2005, 10:29 AM)
They should not. They have already abused their power in WWII, why give them another chance?
That was the United State's fault. And besides, the Russia Federation, the People's Republic of China, et cetera all abused military power and now they have nukes. So why should Japan be left out?
Korps Commander
Aug 26 2005, 10:36 AM
How was it the US' fault........?
The US was attacked at Pearl Harbor before we did anything bad to the Japanese. Plus, the japanese were abusing power in China and other places in Asia, torturing the natives there.
myscrnnm
Aug 26 2005, 10:38 AM
QUOTE(Korps Commander @ Aug 26 2005, 10:36 AM)
How was it the US' fault........?
The US was attacked at Pearl Harbor before we did anything bad to the Japanese. Plus, the japanese were abusing power in China and other places in Asia, torturing the natives there.
The United States sent Commodore Perry to Japan to open up trade. And Perry said that if Japan did not accept the proposition, that he would use his battleship to blow them all up (not including himself).
Korps Commander
Aug 26 2005, 10:39 AM
The japanese have acted evil throught the millenium.
Heard of the Nanking rape? That was bad.
myscrnnm
Aug 26 2005, 10:44 AM
QUOTE(Korps Commander @ Aug 26 2005, 10:39 AM)
The japanese have acted evil throught the millenium.
Heard of the Nanking rape? That was bad.
How can they be evil when they have brought us anime and
colored bunnys? Not to mention the Playstation family.
Ah yes, the famous Rape of Nanking. That was at a time when the Japanese believed the Chinese to be inferior. But I don't see you bashing Germany for killing Jews.
25 Points removed, violation of the FAQ
Korps Commander
Aug 26 2005, 10:46 AM
Actually, everyone bashes Germay for killing Jews. I mean, the Nazis were so evil its hard NOT to bash them.
myscrnnm
Aug 26 2005, 10:47 AM
QUOTE(Korps Commander @ Aug 26 2005, 10:46 AM)
Actually, everyone bashes Germay for killing Jews. I mean, the Nazis were so evil its hard NOT to bash them.
Perhaps the Nazis were 'brainwashed'.
anthonytc22
Aug 26 2005, 10:48 AM
When using the label "Japanese", you have to be careful who you're talking about. The Japanese government of the early 20th century is incredibly different then what it is today. Also, the Japanese culture of ancient Japan is also much more different then that of today.
The "Japanese" that invaded China 70 years ago is NOT the Japanese of today.
Korps Commander
Aug 26 2005, 10:52 AM
Well, that's true. But myscrnnm seems to think that the japanese are gods no matter in what time period.
myscrnnm
Aug 26 2005, 10:53 AM
QUOTE(Korps Commander @ Aug 26 2005, 10:52 AM)
Well, that's true. But myscrnnm seems to think that the japanese are gods no matter in what time period.
I do not believe in God or any gods for that matter.
Mynck
Aug 26 2005, 11:04 AM
You realize that was a hyperbole? And good thought, Anthony. The US spends about 400 billion a year on military while Japan only spends over 45 billion. If we ditched everything except for a few hundred nukes and the equipment needed to use them, those few hundred billion could be used for all sorts of things.
myscrnnm
Aug 26 2005, 11:10 AM
QUOTE(Mynck @ Aug 26 2005, 11:04 AM)
You realize that was a hyperbole? And good thought, Anthony. The US spends about 400 billion a year on military while Japan only spends over 45 billion. If we ditched everything except for a few hundred nukes and the equipment needed to use them, those few hundred billion could be used for all sorts of things.
The United States also owes Japan a <expletive>load of money.
Fined 25 points for getting past the word filter
Korps Commander
Aug 26 2005, 12:25 PM
Which it already paid back by giving Japan millions of dollars after WWII.
myscrnnm
Aug 26 2005, 12:36 PM
QUOTE(myscrnnm @ Aug 26 2005, 12:10 PM)
The United States also owes Japan a <expletive>load of money.
Fined 25 points for getting past the word filterWhat?! How's that considered getting past the word filter?! Gone are the days when getting past the word filter meant purposely spelling a word wrong.
Korps Commander
Aug 26 2005, 12:47 PM
I agree. Showing resentment by saying "expletive" isn't getting past the word filter. In fact, its a good way of doing it.
Lappy's really turning into a.....never mind, I would get fined for saying it. He warned me up to 60% and then made a rule about the violation I had supposedly committed. I mean, there wasn't even a rule about it before!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
myscrnnm
Aug 26 2005, 12:51 PM
QUOTE(Korps Commander @ Aug 26 2005, 01:47 PM)
I agree. Showing resentment by saying "expletive" isn't getting past the word filter. In fact, its a good way of doing it.
Lappy's really turning into a.....never mind, I would get fined for saying it. He warned me up to 60% and then made a rule about the violation I had supposedly committed. I mean, there wasn't even a rule about it before!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, everything here is vague and unnatural. If he is going to fine us and warn us, he needs to at least give people time to adapt to the new environment so it is clear what and what not to do.
But let's get back to the topic of Japan before he fines me again.
Korps Commander
Aug 26 2005, 12:52 PM
And he needs to make rules about it BEFORE he punishes us.
Anyway, the japanese are regular people too, notpeople who deserve to be worshipped like you worship them.
myscrnnm
Aug 26 2005, 12:56 PM
QUOTE(Korps Commander @ Aug 26 2005, 01:52 PM)
And he needs to make rules about it BEFORE he punishes us.
Anyway, the japanese are regular people too, notpeople who deserve to be worshipped like you worship them.
Well, I don't know about you, but for me, he did make rules, I'll tell you that much. But he did not elaborate on the rules, which I think is just as bad.
I do not worship them, I worship no one, except perhaps Sony. I merely respect the Japanese.
Korps Commander
Aug 26 2005, 12:58 PM
Why do you worship Sony so much? I mean, they are nothing but a simple company.
myscrnnm
Aug 26 2005, 01:02 PM
QUOTE(Korps Commander @ Aug 26 2005, 01:58 PM)
Why do you worship Sony so much? I mean, they are nothing but a simple company.
Sony is not a mere company. Sony is a symbol of high quality. They manufacture most of the best products in the world, including, but not limited to, the Network Walkman NW-HD1, the VAIO T-series notebook computer, the WEGA engine system, the DSC-F828 Cybershot digital still camera, the HDR-FX1 high-definition camcorder, and of course, the Playstation family.
But let's get back on the topic of the military before lappy fines me for this too.
Korps Commander
Aug 26 2005, 02:33 PM
Ok, well the japanese can be evil at times, too.
myscrnnm
Aug 26 2005, 02:35 PM
QUOTE(Korps Commander @ Aug 26 2005, 03:33 PM)
Ok, well the japanese can be evil at times, too.
Everyone can be evil at times. Evil is a monster that is within all of us. Most of the time, we try to control it, but it can be unleased at a moment's noice.
Korps Commander
Aug 26 2005, 02:39 PM
And the japanese release it more than they really need to.
myscrnnm
Aug 26 2005, 02:41 PM
QUOTE(Korps Commander @ Aug 26 2005, 03:39 PM)
And the japanese release it more than they really need to.
No, however, the Mexicans do. I know Japanese people who are friendly. But once I went to a Subway and a Mexican employee cursed when a customer wanted the bread to be cut.
Korps Commander
Aug 26 2005, 03:19 PM
That was ONE mexican person. And I've met mexican people who are friendly, too.
myscrnnm
Aug 26 2005, 03:40 PM
QUOTE(Korps Commander @ Aug 26 2005, 04:19 PM)
That was ONE mexican person. And I've met mexican people who are friendly, too.
I don't see many Mexican people. Most of them are hostile.
Korps Commander
Aug 26 2005, 03:53 PM
How about the people at our school?
myscrnnm
Aug 26 2005, 03:59 PM
QUOTE(Korps Commander @ Aug 26 2005, 04:53 PM)
How about the people at our school?
Yeah, there too.
Mynck
Aug 26 2005, 04:02 PM
And that is why the Japanese do/don't deserve a military force.
myscrnnm
Aug 26 2005, 04:04 PM
QUOTE(Mynck @ Aug 26 2005, 05:02 PM)
And that is why the Japanese do/don't deserve a military force.
That makes absolutely no sense. The Japanese don't deserve a military because the Mexicans are rude and hostile?!
Mynck
Aug 26 2005, 04:08 PM
I'm telling you to stop being
myscrnnm
Aug 26 2005, 04:10 PM
QUOTE(Mynck @ Aug 26 2005, 05:08 PM)
I'm telling you to stop being

Korps Commander was the one who started being

.
Mynck
Aug 26 2005, 04:24 PM
I'm telling you both to stop being
Korps Commander
Aug 26 2005, 05:46 PM
You know myscrnnm, always trying to degrade the mexicans.
Anyways, the japanese military should not grow in size any more than it is today. I mean, with how advanced they are, they could revert back to the ole WWII days.
myscrnnm
Aug 26 2005, 11:08 PM
QUOTE(Korps Commander @ Aug 26 2005, 06:46 PM)
You know myscrnnm, always trying to degrade the mexicans.
Anyways, the japanese military should not grow in size any more than it is today. I mean, with how advanced they are, they could revert back to the ole WWII days.
How hypocritical of you. You support the Mexicans, but you believe that the Japanese should not be able to enlarge their miliary forces. When the communist China and the Russian Federation now have huge armies and a bunch of nukes.
Korps Commander
Aug 26 2005, 11:09 PM
Well, I don't think that Communist China should have nukes and a huge army, but its too late to stop it. However, we can still stop Japan.
myscrnnm
Aug 26 2005, 11:10 PM
QUOTE(Korps Commander @ Aug 27 2005, 12:09 AM)
Well, I don't think that Communist China should have nukes and a huge army, but its too late to stop it. However, we can still stop Japan.
Japan is more credible than China though, so you must look at all the aspects of the situation.
Korps Commander
Aug 26 2005, 11:11 PM
We've seen the terror that Japan can deliver, though.
myscrnnm
Aug 26 2005, 11:16 PM
QUOTE(Korps Commander @ Aug 27 2005, 12:11 AM)
We've seen the terror that Japan can deliver, though.
We have also seen the terror that the Germans, the Russians, the Chinese, the Americans, the Iraqis, the Afghans, and et cetera can deliver too. But are you protesting against them? I don't think so.
Korps Commander
Aug 26 2005, 11:18 PM
The Germans have already been cowed down. Same for the Russians. And the Iraquis and Afghans. And the Americans, according to you, only do things that are right. But Japan should not be allowed to spread fascist ways again.
myscrnnm
Aug 26 2005, 11:36 PM
QUOTE(Korps Commander @ Aug 27 2005, 12:18 AM)
The Germans have already been cowed down. Same for the Russians. And the Iraquis and Afghans. And the Americans, according to you, only do things that are right. But Japan should not be allowed to spread fascist ways again.
The Japanese have no interest in war. Your distrust of them is pure paranoia. The only other people who believe them to be fascists are the soldiers from the World War II era who believe that the Japanese are dogs. But the world has changed a lot, more than you would know. It has been more than sixty years since Hiroshima and Nagasaki were annihilated, most people would know that the Japanese have changed from what they've seen. Think of the Cold War, the Russians have changed. They are no longer the communists that they once were. And if Russia can change, why can't Japan? Do you, like Mynck, believe the Japanese to be an inferior race? One not capable of adaptation?
djbob
Aug 27 2005, 01:01 AM
QUOTE(myscrnnm @ Aug 26 2005, 11:08 PM)
How hypocritical of you. You support the Mexicans, but you believe that the Japanese should not be able to enlarge their miliary forces. When the communist China and the Russian Federation now have huge armies and a bunch of nukes.
How about the US? It has one of the largest armies, and the most nukes.
QUOTE(myscrnnm @ Aug 26 2005, 11:10 PM)
Japan is more credible than China though, so you must look at all the aspects of the situation.
I wouldn't agree - China never tortured the Japs, etc.
Mynck
Aug 27 2005, 06:08 AM
myscrnnm, do you realize that KC seems to be messing with you?
Korps Commander
Aug 27 2005, 08:43 AM
QUOTE(myscrnnm @ Aug 26 2005, 11:36 PM)
Do you, like Mynck, believe the Japanese to be an inferior race? One not capable of adaptation?
Lol, Mynck thinks that the Japanese are inferior? No, I just believe that all races are equal.
Mynck
Aug 27 2005, 08:53 AM
See, with myscrnnm, he thinks you wither have to be for or against something. He has no concept of neutrality or something.
Korps Commander
Aug 27 2005, 08:55 AM
"If you are not with us, you are against us"
lol
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