There have been talks of Linux's CLI being better than Mac OS X's GUI, but personally, I think that Mac OS X is better.

CLI will always pwn a GUI just because it doesnt waste system resources.

But with the programs that people are using, they will have to get faster CPUs anyway.

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HDDs and RAM too.

But they wont have to if they dont have a huge GUI wasting a massive amount of resources in the background.

The GUI takes up so little resources compared with games like Battlefield 2 that it is a trivial matter. And most people can sacfrice a bit of system resources to have a more convenient interface.

convenient? I hardly call searching around a bunch of icons convenient.

You can have as many of those and as little of those as you like. And you can also choose which icons you want to have present.

You make it sound like Linux is a purely command line based OS. It's not. The X Windows system has been developed to a point where it rivals other GUIs in functionality, and the KDE interface is nearing the Macintosh in what you might call "prettiness". But the command line will always be the more powerful choice. Basically, all that clicking on a program icon in Linux does is execute the command that starts the program. For example, clicking on an "America's Army" icon is simply going to execute the command "armyops". It is considerably more efficient, resource-wise, to execute that on the command line than to make an icon to click on.

I used to think that too. But HerLoss was praising Linux for being CLI.

And I still am. The X Window System, be it GNOME or KDE, is only for those more comfortable with a GUI (obviously not raised on Dos like normal people). Linux is entirely CLI, with a GUI program that can be used to manipulate the command line graphically. GNOME and KDE arent OS's. They are merely programs for the technically un-inclined.

I did not say that GNOME and KDE are operating systems. I have not even mentioned them before this post.

But you were implying that they were a huge part of linux, by attacking my praise of its command line interface.

I did not imply it, cuz before you talked about it, I had not spoke of them. I assumed that you were talking about Linux having a CLI because that's what we were talking about.

mac is better. linux is just retarded. mac is decent, but a little bit weird for someone used to windows.

There is nothing wrong with Linux. Its free, its reliable, it works, and its a powerful rival to Windows.

What makes it so evil anyway??

It's not evil. Microsoft is evil. Well, probably not, maybe just oppressive.

I have to agree with you on that. I mean, being a native Windows user, it took a few hours to get used to the orientation of the Mac OS, but after a while, navigation is smooth. And I'm sure you would agree with me that GUI pwnz CLI as well.

Optional GUI's for linux pwn Windows once again due to their simplicity.

You can opt not to use the mouse too (and Trackpoint and the touchpad for that matter).

That has nothing to do with the subject. You said that GUI pwnz CLI, yet linux's Optional GUI's pwn windows for the same reasons that the linux CLI pwns windows's GUI. You just went from OS to hardware, which is a totally different topic.

GUI refers to being able to use a mouse to control a cursor that appears on the screen, so it is a combination of software and hardware. This was first pioneered by Apple Computer and it is now the most popular type of computer interface in the world.

But they both use a mouse and curser, so what does it matter if you can dissconect your mouse? It doesnt. It has nothing to do with the GUIs themselves.

I was aware that both of them use a mouse and a cursor, that is also what makes them have a GUI. But you were going on about how great CLI is. And actually, you can operate Windows solely with a keyboard as well.

yes, but you are still manipulating a GUI with a keyboard. GUI's will always be slower than CLI's just because of the Graphical portion of the interface. This makes a CLI better.

But the typically GUI Windows can also be solely controlled with a keyboard, you just need to know how.

Typically any GUI can be manipulated with a keyboard, and even a moron such as yourself could do so. It involves the num-pad arrows and the enter key, along with some configuration.

You mean a GUI operating system. Cuz the point of GUI is having a mouse to control the cursor (or in some cases the touchpad or Trackpoint). But you keep on praising Linux for using CLI when Windows can be operated in a similar method. Most people just choose the easier way. Why do you think GUI is so dominant in computers? Because it is better than its predecessor.

No, I mean a GUI in general. GUI programs for linux can be manipulated in the exact same way as Windows can, and slowly moving a curser around a screen is extremely inefficient compared to just typing in a command. Why do you think linux is a more widely used server OS? Because its more efficient.

Sometimes it is indeed faster to use keyboard commands, I'll admit that. But there are many cases where the mouse is faster than the keyboard, that is why most people prefer it. Also, using the mouse is easier than memorizing all these commands. I mean, I use stuff like control+v, but otherwise, the mouse is the best choice. For instance, if you had a page of text, and you wanted to go from top to bottom, you can use the convenient scroll wheel.

All you need to know for a CLI is CD and DIR. Thats it, no massive lists of commands to memorize. Most programs that have any use for a mouse are graphic, and I cant possibly see scrolling through menus to find the Help menu being faster than just typing in the command HELP. Oh, and for scrolling, theres also the convinient arrow keys. Scroll wheels only have one axis, arrow keys allow for two dimentional movement, and the arrow keys are just as convienient considering your right hand is right there anyways, youre not using the mouse.

You're wrong, Microsoft has invented something called the tilt-wheel. Instead of going back and forth, the tilt-wheel also goes from left to right for two-dimensional scrolling. I have three of these.

Well that isnt a scroll wheel now is it? No. And if thats all you have to say in regards to the entire argument, I consider you pwned.

The tilt-wheel is still a scroll wheel, because it is designed for scrolling.

normal people dont use DOS. they use GUI

You could always just kill the explorer process. That should get rid of the GUI of Windows if you hate it that much.

you still have a mouse and stuff..., no, explorer only kills the start menu, the application bar, and the file explorer. Nothing else.

And at that, you can use Firefox as the file browser.

Back in the day EVERYONE who used a computer used DOS, cuz thats all there was. So being raised on DOS can be considered synonomous with being raised on a computer period.

although these kids my age are in the 95/98/NT or maybe even 3.1 generation, which really makes a lot of these members believe there is no way around a CLI.

Thats just too bad... I still have this mini-computer from radio shack that plugs into a tv and has DOS hardwired in.

the first computer i can remember using was windows 95.

That's why Apple Computer invented an operating system that used a GUI, the first one ever to do so. Or at least the first popular one.

I also remember using the old apples with the green/black screens. Still prefer dos to it though. The apples didnt really have an OS. Or a hard drive for that matter...

If something doesn't have an operating system, you can't use it. Even simple thing like my digital watch have operating systems.

The computer didnt have an OS, its on the floppies you use with it. [snide comment edited. 25 kp fine]

Okay, but there's still an operating system that you use in the computer to use it.

The computer doesnt have an OS, each program is its own operating system.

But the computer needs some sort of operating system to run these programs.

mac osx
is better than linux
looks cool
its also easier to use

My point exactly. Mac OS X is also more efficient, sexier, has more features, is more reliable, is more secure, et cetera.